Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:43 pm

Elessar wrote:Then there's hypoglycaemia, or low blood sugar. This is a feeling that we've all had from time to time, some more than others - a feeling of weakness, light-headedness, sometimes shakiness or perhaps other symptoms. Often it's accompanied by a craving for sugary food, which makes sense as hypoglycaemia is low blood sugar.

After a large meal, blood has to be diverted to the gastrointestinal tract to digest the food and to absorb its nutrients. For this reason, other processes slow down - you may sometimes feel tired after a big meal. You may also get this feeling of hypoglycaemia.

The whole thing is then complicated by Pavlovian conditioning. If you experience hypoglycaemia regularly after eating a large meal, you'll become used to eating something sweet after a meal. Eating something sweet requires differeny enzymes to digest it. As with Pavlov's dogs, the body will start producing these enzymes in anticipation of an incoming glucose load, and the enzymes will make you feel that you want that glucose load.

The same principle is the reason why chewing gum makes you hungry. The act of chewing causes the stomach to produce stomach acid in anticipation of food arriving. When that food doesn't arrive, the stomach acid churns around, and you feel hungry.


Ok, here is the deal with me as far as hypoglycemia goes. I was given 3 glucose tolerance tests in 3 different states, the first one being in Rolla Missouri when I lived there. I had actually sought psyciatric treatment because of the symptoms which included, shaking, sweating, dizziness and a few others. The psychiatrist at the clinic ordered a 5 hour glucose tolerance test at the hospital and I had the test. I really was not expecting the results to come back as hypoglycemia because, well, nevermind. lol

I was really in shock to find out that's what it was. They showed me the graph and at about 1 hour into the test, my blood sugar level was at 40 and then it gradually started climbing back up. I don't believe at that time that it rarely went over 100 even after a decent meal which was usually fish when I was at work.

When I moved to Texas, I saw a specialist because the psychiatrist had recommended some books on blood sugar and this guy was in Houston. I saw him, had another 5 hour test and he said I was dysglycemic, being hypoglycemic at times and diabetic at others.

When we moved back to IL, I went to a doctor to get established and he had me to to the hospital for a 3 hour test and confirmed hypoglycemia, then sent me to a registered dietician for diet management.

I don't eat large meals because I just get sick of the food pretty fast. Food is often not appealing to me.

Another thing and you will most likely not believe this but when my blood sugar is low, I do not want to eat. In fact, even though I feel lousy as hell, I will put off eating until it can't be put off any more. I just do not want food, period, and I do not ever crave sugar when my blood sugar is low.

No two people are the same. No two diabetics are the same, nor are any 2 hypoglycemics the same.

I get on binges of wanting somethng sweet after eating dinner, though and it's not immeditaly following the meal. It could be 30 minutes later or a little less but the more I deny myself a treat (I am talking a couple of M&M peanuts or something worse like ice cream (damn the ppl I live with! LOL) but I will damn near pace the floor for HOURS until I get that treat. Then all is well. :lol: I just need to break myself from eating that kind of stuff so often but damn it tastes good. :lol:
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Elessar » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:49 pm

Sorry, hold on - I've let this go every time you've mentioned it but I'm going to ask now - what do you mean by 'hypoglycaemia'? Hypoglycaemia is a symptom, not a condition. It can be a symptom of dozens of various things, and it's fully understandable if you don't want to say what your particular cause is, but hypoglycaemia by itself isn't a condition. It's a symptom of something else. It just means 'low blood sugar'! (hypo = low, glyc (from glyks) = sweet, aemia (from haimia) = blood) Everyone has it from time to time. Do you have some sort of chronic hypoglycaemia that never goes away? That must be some sort of digestive system problem then?
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Elessar » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:53 pm

Not feeling hungry while also being hypoglycaemic sounds like hyperinsulinaemia to me. Has anyone mentioned that possibility?
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:58 pm

Elessar wrote:Not feeling hungry while also being hypoglycaemic sounds like hyperinsulinaemia to me. Has anyone mentioned that possibility?


Not that I am aware. That's been going on for years and YEARS. I've never really heard that term before. What does it mean?
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:00 pm

Elessar wrote:Sorry, hold on - I've let this go every time you've mentioned it but I'm going to ask now - what do you mean by 'hypoglycaemia'? Hypoglycaemia is a symptom, not a condition. It can be a symptom of dozens of various things, and it's fully understandable if you don't want to say what your particular cause is, but hypoglycaemia by itself isn't a condition. It's a symptom of something else. It just means 'low blood sugar'! (hypo = low, glyc (from glyks) = sweet, aemia (from haimia) = blood) Everyone has it from time to time. Do you have some sort of chronic hypoglycaemia that never goes away? That must be some sort of digestive system problem then?


All I can tell you is my father's family were diabetic and now I am finding out a lot of my mother's side were too.

The diagnosis from all clinics and doctors I have seen is hypoglycemia. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Elessar » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:24 pm

Innuendoes wrote:
Elessar wrote:Not feeling hungry while also being hypoglycaemic sounds like hyperinsulinaemia to me. Has anyone mentioned that possibility?


Not that I am aware. That's been going on for years and YEARS. I've never really heard that term before. What does it mean?


Too much insulin. Sort of the opposite of diabetes. Insulin suppresses appetite, and also causes glucose to be converted to glycogen. Too much insulin would certainly cause hypoglycaemia.

I don't know much more than that to be honest - it's 3 years since I did biochemistry!
This is a list of possible causes though...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinsul ... poglycemia
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:41 pm

Elessar wrote:
Innuendoes wrote:
Elessar wrote:Not feeling hungry while also being hypoglycaemic sounds like hyperinsulinaemia to me. Has anyone mentioned that possibility?


Not that I am aware. That's been going on for years and YEARS. I've never really heard that term before. What does it mean?


Too much insulin. Sort of the opposite of diabetes. Insulin suppresses appetite, and also causes glucose to be converted to glycogen. Too much insulin would certainly cause hypoglycaemia.

I don't know much more than that to be honest - it's 3 years since I did biochemistry!
This is a list of possible causes though...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinsul ... poglycemia


Mmm, yea. I'm just as confused as before.. well, I wasn't really confused, I just went by my diet and don't eat when I don't feel like it. lol

What the hell is this all about? Gastric dumping syndrome. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Elessar » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:45 pm

Innuendoes wrote:Mmm, yea. I'm just as confused as before.. well, I wasn't really confused, I just went by my diet and don't eat when I don't feel like it. lol

What the hell is this all about? Gastric dumping syndrome. :lol: :lol:


Sounds like it's more common as a post-operative condition. Makes sense, I guess.
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Re: Homeopathy is electromagnetic.

Postby Delilah » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:26 am

Elessar wrote:Painkillers won't do much for actual migraines - you need something like sumatriptan. Or some chocolate.


Oh don't fucking tell me that I've got a placebo effect from Exedrin Migraine!!! Oh the shame of it all.... :( :lol:
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Re: Homeopathy is electromagnetic.

Postby Belle Leisha » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:51 am

Delilah wrote:
Elessar wrote:Painkillers won't do much for actual migraines - you need something like sumatriptan. Or some chocolate.


Oh don't fucking tell me that I've got a placebo effect from Exedrin Migraine!!! Oh the shame of it all.... :( :lol:


Paracetamol, Aspirin, all of them, all have "migrianes" written on their list of things they help, they don't, but the thing is a migraine headache (let's hope!) is finite, it'll go away regardless of what you use or whether you use anything.

A few months ago I perforated both my eardrums, it was the most painful thing I have ever felt ever, there's no way painkillers were helping, but there's a point of pain at which I'll try anything. What eventually worked was hot olive oil in cotton wool, stuffed right into my ear. Yay for alternatives. :P
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Re: Homeopathy is electromagnetic.

Postby Delilah » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:44 am

Belle Leisha wrote:Paracetamol, Aspirin, all of them, all have "migrianes" written on their list of things they help, they don't, but the thing is a migraine headache (let's hope!) is finite, it'll go away regardless of what you use or whether you use anything.

A few months ago I perforated both my eardrums, it was the most painful thing I have ever felt ever, there's no way painkillers were helping, but there's a point of pain at which I'll try anything. What eventually worked was hot olive oil in cotton wool, stuffed right into my ear. Yay for alternatives. :P


True, but I overdose on them and then drink coffee in the hopes that the caffeine will help. Maybe it's the caffeine, who knows?
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Elessar » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:46 am

Having never actually had a migraine, I can't speak from experience, but my understand is that migraines are very different to headaches. Not just in terms of severity, but in general symptoms. Migraines may involve an aura, phantom smells, and tend to be one-sided. Painkillers might help a little bit, but proper migraine medication such as sumatriptan (any 5HT agonist, really) is the way forward.

Or opiates of course. They'll make pretty much anything feel better.
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Elessar » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:50 am

Or for some entry-level prescription only medication, diclofenac is brilliant. Same family as ibuprofen, but SO much better. Ibuprofen is a waste of time really; diclofenac actually works. But if you're happy to start breaking the law by taking drugs that weren't prescribed to you, you might as well go a few steps further and crack out the hard stuff.
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Delilah » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:52 am

Elessar wrote:Having never actually had a migraine, I can't speak from experience, but my understand is that migraines are very different to headaches. Not just in terms of severity, but in general symptoms. Migraines may involve an aura, phantom smells, and tend to be one-sided. Painkillers might help a little bit, but proper migraine medication such as sumatriptan (any 5HT agonist, really) is the way forward.

Or opiates of course. They'll make pretty much anything feel better.


Yeah, morphine would be best for it. Get high enough and even if it still hurts, you just can't bring yourself to care. I love morphine.

Migraines might be proof of Satan. I don't get the phantom smells, but things can get a bit fuzzy around the edges and I tend to throw up if I'm in a situation where I can't go and lay down in complete darkness curled in the fetal position contemplating how likely I would be to commit suicide if I ever got a permanent migraine.
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Re: Electromagnetism is homeopathic.

Postby Belle Leisha » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:56 am

Yep, there's nothing more annoying than someone with a headache who claims it turned into a migraine, there's no turning, if you get a migraine you will know about it! :P And I don't know if this is universal but they run in my family and we all find their headache is the last thing to come along, and it's different to normal headaches. It starts with light sensitivity, like there's a torch shining directly in one of your eyes and everywhere you look it follows. Then you get weird things like one hand, arm or entire side goes numb, vision, depth perception, speech, even just trying to think through any complicated like numbers, feels muddled, some people get sick, then once all that has calmed down a bit you get a very distinctive "four screws" headache. Aptly named. That lingers, for several days afterwards if you move too quickly or lean down it pangs a bit.

Nice, overall.

Does caffeine work Dee? The only thing that ever works, mainly because it's about the only option with bad ones, is sleep, caffeine might hinder that a bit!
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