1977 Ultimate Collection: News Of The World

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Postby Sir Didymus » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:41 pm

I still maintain thats just Brian's style of singing (which in some respects is like my own, except Brian can sing :lol:), and also careful piano playing. I've tried singing the song, and I also have the slight pause before the 'give' of 'forgive' and a quiet 'm' of 'me'. :P

Would Queen really be so reckless as to risk a take join *MID* word? Mid verse yes, mid line perhaps... but in the middle of a word? :shock:
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 29, 2004 4:41 pm

All these lists are looking rather good and impressive John. But why include Earl's Court here when it was the last date they played on their A Day At The Races tour? The only connection to the NOTW album is the year... Other than this, everything is spanking... :cool:
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Postby John S Stuart » Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:11 pm

Champs wrote:All these lists are looking rather good and impressive John. But why include Earl's Court here when it was the last date they played on their A Day At The Races tour? The only connection to the NOTW album is the year... Other than this, everything is spanking... :cool:


As I said earlier to Loretta: You are correct - but whatever catalogue system one uses - it is artificial by nature - so it can never please everyone. For example under 1979, you will find that I include no "Game" tracks because I have included these under the 1980 "Game" LP sessions. Other anomalies such as "Mad The Swine" - would first appear in 1991.

It is the same with live material. Although you too are correct - Earl's Court was from the "Day At The Races" tour - it still fits in nicely into the 1977 year catalogue also.

It depends how we prefer to "shoehorn" our material, perhaps I should include it in both?
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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:13 pm

No worries, but it can cause slight confusion to the more casual reader. On the whole - an excellent series of posts so far.
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Postby queenfan23 » Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:01 am

John, have you got round to listening to All Dead, All Dead yet? :P
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Postby John S Stuart » Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:39 pm

PTRACER wrote:John, have you got round to listening to All Dead, All Dead yet? :P


I am not ignoring you - but not yet. When I get home later tonight. I promise!!!
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Postby queenfan23 » Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:41 pm

John S Stuart wrote:
PTRACER wrote:John, have you got round to listening to All Dead, All Dead yet? :P


I am not ignoring you - but not yet. When I get home later tonight. I promise!!!


Ok :) :P
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Postby John S Stuart » Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:48 am

PTRACER wrote:Exactly 2 minutes 25 seconds in, at the word 'forget me' / 'forgive me'.

The volume dips mid word 'forgive' or 'forget', whatever the lyric is, and the 'm' of 'me' is slightly faded in.

This is just before the final chorus.


I must admit, this has been driving me nuts for ages. I have listened aloud. I have listened with headphones. I have listened in the car. I have listened to the UK CD and the Hollywood remaster, and to be honest, I think it is more of an illusion than reality. (So I have not been slow - but thorough).

First, the bit you refer to follows a "silence" so the obvious cut would be after the "weeping guitar" but before the vocal. So I do not think it is an edit splice.

Second, it could be what I have been told is "attack and decay". Now, I am not technically minded, but, simplified Brian attacks the first syllable of the "m" but trails the "e" making it sound more pronounced than it really is - but hey, that's not my theory, just a possible answer from one of my drunken associates!

After a couple of weeks at this, I am no further forwards. Can anyone else take over?

Sorry I can not be of any further help, but in my mind it is there, and yet on other occasions it is not!
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Postby queenfan23 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:31 pm

Whatever it is, it does sound natural, that's for certain.

I guess one of the people who might know is Brian May. :P
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Re: 1977 Ultimate Collection: News Of The World

Postby queenfan23 » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:55 pm

Reading back through the old posts, I noticed that Greg Brooks said that this is a myth...:

John S Stuart wrote:Batteries Not Included - Unreleased:


Is this a track that fans have 'rumoured' about (made up?) or is there proof this exists?
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