The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Leigh Burne » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:31 am

Tenement Funster wrote:Disc Three : NOTW : Collection of rare tracks.

Rare tracks? :lol: Are you serious? Everything on that disc with the exception of a couple of the half-arsed instrumentals is taken from existing releases that are still eminently available.

Honestly, the piecemeal 'live' section of that disc is an absolute disgrace. As opposed to being a period document, some of the tracks are from nearly a decade later, which might be OK if the reason for that wasn't that they're simply lifted from a live album that's been around for years and most Queen fans almost certainly already owns. Literally no other box set has included such a laughable excuse for live content. Conversely Queen are the only ones that I'm aware of not to include a period live concert as part of the package. Def Leppard did it. Whitesnake did it. Marillion did it. Metallica did it (several times over). The Eagles are doing it. Fleetwood Mac are doing it. Need I go on?
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Administrator » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:34 am

cmsdrums wrote:Has there been any official comment or response yet to the bios for John, Roger and Freddie being missing from the replica newspaper centre page spread?


Yes... http://www.queenonline.com/news/claim-a ... -newspaper
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby cmsdrums » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:53 am

Thanks. (I wonder what ‘a small number’ constitutes?)

What if people bought the set to collect and leave unopened as an investment? How can they get a corrected version in case their original is one of the faulty ones?
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby BitterTears » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:25 pm

While I get the frustration if people wish to keep it sealed, I think it's fair enough that they won't send out a replacement to people who don't even know if there's anything wrong with their copy or not.
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby hotspace1966 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:41 pm

Won't find until Christmas, but probably not going to be arsed in sorting out a correct sheet if mine is one of those that has been issued wrong. Although it is a pretty big miss in as far as the checking goes.
Seems to have got good reviews so far, so looking forward to opening despite my reservations about what should and shouldn't have been included.
Hopefully not too many people that do care about these sort of things will have been effected and the matter can be dealt with quickly.
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Kes » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:24 pm

Kes wrote:Oh, anyone else who has the boxset, if and when you listen to the original album (remastered) CD, could you concentrate on the track Sheer Heart Attack, and tell me if you're getting any top end drop outs, particularly in the second half of the song. I just listened to mine in the car, and it sounded fucking dreadful, and I'm pretty sure it's not my system, as the rest of the album sounded fine.


Strike that. Have since tried to get that CD to do it again, and it won't. Must just be my stupid hearing going pear shaped.

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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby P.T » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:22 pm

I really want the 3CD+DVD version, but there's no way in hell it's worth £102. I'd say £35-£45 is an acceptable price for the album, else if it comes out on Spotify I'll listen on there.
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby slightlymad1970 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:34 pm

P.T wrote:I really want the 3CD+DVD version, but there's no way in hell it's worth £102. I'd say £35-£45 is an acceptable price for the album, else if it comes out on Spotify I'll listen on there.

I really think QPL have dropped a clanger here, they have missed out on quite a lot of sales and revenue by not releasing a smaller version of this box set. I would say 50% of the people buying the box would at some point buy a 3CD+DVD box.

Look at what Prince released with the Purple Rain Expanded version below and look at the price!!!

Purple Rain Deluxe (Expanded Edition) Box set, CD+DVD, Explicit Lyrics - £18.99
Disc: 1
1. Let's Go Crazy (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
2. Take Me With U (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
3. The Beautiful Ones (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
4. Computer Blue (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
5. Darling Nikki (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
6. When Doves Cry (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
7. I Would Die 4 U (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
8. Baby I'm a Star (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)
9. Purple Rain (2015 Paisley Park Remaster)

Disc: 2
1. The Dance Electric - Prince
2. Love and Sex - Prince
3. Computer Blue ("Hallway Speech" Version) - Prince
4. Electric Intercourse (Studio Version) - Prince
5. Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden
6. Possessed - Prince
7. Wonderful Ass - Prince
8. Velvet Kitty Cat - Prince
9. Katrina's Paper Dolls - Prince
10. We Can Fuck - Prince
11. Father's Song - Prince

Disc: 3
1. When Doves Cry (7" Single Edit) - Prince
2. 17 Days (7" B-Side Edit)
3. Let's Go Crazy (7" Single Edit)
4. Let's Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix)
5. Erotic City ("Let's Go Crazy" 7" B-Side Edit)
6. Erotic City (Make Love Not War Erotic City Come Alive) [Extended Version]
7. Purple Rain (7" Single Edit)
8. God ("Purple Rain" 7" B-Side)
9. God (Love Theme from Purple Rain) [U.K. 12" B-Side]
10. Another Lonely Christmas ("I Would Die 4 U" 7" B-Side Edit)
11. Another Lonely Christmas (Extended Version)
12. I Would Die 4 U (7" Single Edit)
13. I Would Die 4 U (Extended Version)
14. Baby I'm a Star ("Take Me With U" 7" B-Side Edit)
15. Take Me With U (7" Single Edit)

Disc: 4 - DVD
1. Let's Go Crazy (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
2. Delirious (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
3. 1999 (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
4. Little Red Corvette (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
5. Take Me With U (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
6. Do Me, Baby (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
7. Irresistible Bitch (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
8. Possessed (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
9. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
10. Let's Pretend We're Married (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
11. International Lover (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
12. God (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
13. Computer Blue (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
14. Darling Nikki (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
15. The Beautiful Ones (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
16. When Doves Cry (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
17. I Would Die 4 U (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
18. Baby I'm a Star (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
19. Purple Rain (Live at the Carrier Dome, 1985)
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby cmsdrums » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:18 pm

Is this Purple Rain set something released since Prince died? If so then there’s your answer.....
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Leigh Burne » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:22 pm

slightlymad1970 wrote:Look at what Prince released with the Purple Rain Expanded version below and look at the price!!!

Whitesnake also put out a fantastic 4 CD/1 DVD set of their 1987 album, containing the album remastered, a period live CD, a CD of demos, a CD containing the various non-album B-sides, single mixes and a few new remixes, a DVD (with videos and a little documentary) and a nice little hardback book about the making of the album for just £35. There was also a vinyl reissue, available separately for about another £20 or so.

Looking at things like that and what Prince did, it's f*cking indefensible how much the Queen box costs.

cmsdrums wrote:Is this Purple Rain set something released since Prince died? If so then there’s your answer.....

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

It hit the shelves posthumously, but he was working on it before he passed.
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Capt. Den Ronson » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:02 pm

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cmsdrums wrote:Has there been any official comment or response yet to the bios for John, Roger and Freddie being missing from the replica newspaper centre page spread?


Yes... http://www.queenonline.com/news/claim-a ... -newspaper


The errors in Roger's 'The Rot' box should have been enough :roll:
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Capt. Den Ronson » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:05 pm

Good Apothecary Man wrote:I suspect that you have a far more sophisticated ear for these things than me.


No, he listens to John Mayer :(
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Kes » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:46 pm

Once again, the price point is set by how much something costs to manufacture, assemble and distribute, over the number of copies they're trying to sell.

Prince's estate will get roughly the same percentage on every unit of his collection sold, as Queen will get on their set, as George Michael will get on his Listen Without Prejudice release. Those percentages won't be radically different.

As others have already said, if there's a slightly bad call here, it's someone not thinking of the price point when they've decided on the backstage pass, the newsletter, the vinyl album, and the other bits and bobs in there, but either way, if they were only intending to sell 15,000 of these as a four disc set, then the price of it still wouldn't be anywhere near the Prince and George Michael ones BECAUSE of the numbers involved.

People throwing their teddy bears out of the cot by saying that someone's being greedy, and that they're going to freeload it, doesn't in any way, resolve the situation, OR help, with any future projects in a similar ilk.

The end result is that if everybody gets it for free, then the artist has very little, or NO motivation at all to make the stuff available in future.
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby maidenpriest » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:22 pm

I am personally appalled by this release they did not even include a live concert version of 'It's Late', just goes to prove that Queen Productions does not care about the music or there legacy just the $$$$$ !! :-(
 
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Re: The cat is out of the Bag - NOTW Expanded Edition!!

Postby Kes » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:24 pm

Capt. Den Ronson wrote:
Good Apothecary Man wrote:I suspect that you have a far more sophisticated ear for these things than me.


No, he listens to John Mayer :(


Good point, but saying that, a lot of fairly well respected musicians also listen to the bloke. You don't get a guest spot on Ed Sheeran's latest album if he thinks you're a right twat, do you?

Guess it just goes to prove there's a fine line between words of wisdom, and the rhetoric of ignorance. As time goes on, I think people will progressively realise which side of the line, you sit.
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