Queen's Sales and Charts

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Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:37 pm

It would be nice to have one space to post all kind of stuff and charts news also in here. There are other threads in certain otherm forums but not one main topic about their sales in Queenonline.

Here is an album list compiled by MJDangerous, a chart expert who runs his own site. Not to say I agree with all his numbers, but at least he is a far more credible source than me:

Worldwide sales

1 The Beatles - 342,050,000
2 Pink Floyd - 203,900,000
3 The Rolling Stones - 189,250,000
4 Queen - 178,020,000
5 Led Zeppelin - 171,100,000
6 U2 - 167,500,000
7 AC/DC - 156,800,000
8 Eagles - 153,450,000
9 ABBA - 129,590,000
10 Bee Gees - 120,400,000

All records sold: Albums, Singles, Digital Downloads, and Music Videos

1- The Beatles: 480,000,000
Albums – 350,000,000
Physical Singles – 110,000,000
Digital downloads – 15,000,000
Music Videos – 4,000,000

2- The Rolling Stones: 285,000,000
Albums – 190,000,000
Physical Singles – 70,000,000
Digital downloads – 20,000,000
Music Videos – 5,000,0000

3- Queen: 260,000,000
Albums – 178,000,000
Physical Singles – 45,000,000
Digital downloads – 25,000,000
Music Videos – 12,000,000

4- Pink Floyd: 235,000,000
Albums – 205,000,000
Physical Singles – 8,000,000
Digital downloads – 12,000,000
Music Videos – 10,000,000

5- U2: 219,000,000
Albums – 168,000,000
Physical Singles – 25,000,000
Digital downloads – 15,000,000
Music Videos – 11,000,000

6- Bee Gees: 203,000,000
Albums – 125,000,000
Physical Singles – 70,000,000
Digital downloads – 5,000,000
Music Videos – 3,000,000

7- Led Zeppelin: 191,000,000
Albums – 172,000,000
Physical Singles – 5,000,000
Digital downloads – 10,000,000
Music Videos – 4,000,000

8- Eagles: 191,000,000
Albums – 154,000,000
Physical Singles – 20,000,000
Digital downloads – 10,000,000
Music Videos – 7,000,000

9- Abba: 190,000,000
Albums – 120,000,000
Physical Singles – 55,000,000
Digital downloads – 12,000,000
Music Videos – 3,000,000

10- AC/DC: 173,000,000
Albums – 158,000,000
Physical Singles – 6,000,000
Digital downloads – 0
Music Videos – 9,000,000

Source: http://fanofmusic.free.fr/index.php?m=C ... sWorldActs
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:42 pm

On another topic, I focused on how well Queen sold from 2002 to 2012. A decade is representative enough, a good period to start off. I could have gone further, but this is fine.

I compiled this, focusing mainly on confirmed numbers and for the biggest markets: there are many sales details.

USA

Album sales:

2004 – 942,000
2005 – 986,000
2006 – 993,000
2007 – 757,000
2008 to September 2009 – 884,000
October 2009 to September 2012 – approximately 950,000

Last thing we knew is that Queen reached 20,000,000 albums sales in the Soundscan era during June 2011.

Total from 2004 to 2012 – 5,512,000

With 2002 and 2003, Queen will have sold roughly 7,400,000 in the USA for the past ten years.

Some Music Video sales:

Live At Wembley – 399,000 (to December 2010)
Queen Rock Montreal – 131,000 (December 2010)
Greatest Video Hits – 123,000 (December 2010)
Queen On Fire – 105,000 (December 2010)
Greatest Video Hits II – 28,000 (December 2005)

We Will Rock You sold about 100,000 from 2002 to now. Plus some smaller sellers (Champions Of The World, The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, Return Of The Champions, A Night At The Opera, Live In Ukraine, Days Of Our Lives) will have added further amounts.

Overall, Queen sold roughly 1,000,000 music videos since 2002, most coming from DVDs.

UK

Album sales:

2002 – 930,000
2003 – 471,000
2004 – 465,000
2005 – 620,000
2006 – 640,000
2007 – 408,357
2008 – 363,830
2009 – 661,480
2010 – 185,000
2011 and 2012 – approximately 375,000

Total 2002 to 2012 – 5,120,000

Annual DVDs sales coming from eight titles: The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, Greatest Video Hits, Made In Heaven: The Films, Live At Wembley, Greatest Video Hits II, Queen On Fire, Return Of The Champions and A Night At The Opera.

2003 – 393,511
2004 – 230,435
2005 – 236,745
2006 – 86,588
2007 – 32,747
2008 – 34,052

Total – 1,020,469

Plus further sales, this time to December 2010:

Queen Rock Montreal – 91,150 (including 11,150 on Blu-Ray)
Live In Ukraine – 17,000

Back catalogue sales for 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 are missing. As are Live At Wembley 25, Days Of Our Lives and Hungarian Rhapsody.

Total music videos sales in 2002 to 2012 – 1,200,000

Japan

Album sales:

In 2005, Queen were presented with two awards for achieved the best selling foreign album of 2004 and for having been the best selling international act altogether during that same year.

See these links: http://www.riaj.or.jp/e/whatsnew/20050310.html

http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2005/200504.pdf

Recording Industry Association of Japan (RIAJ) held the 19th JAPAN GOLD DISC AWARD ceremony at NHK Hall in Shibuya, Tokyo on 10 March, 2005. ORANGE RANGE and QUEEN were certified as "Artist Of The Year", who were the best-selling artists (each from Domestic and International repertoire) in the Japanese music market in 2004.

Domestic : ORANGE RANGE / Sony Music Records
Album : 2,396,872 units
Single : 2,168,498 units

International : QUEEN / TOSHIBA-EMI
Album : 1,781,001 units

As it can be seen, Queen reached total albums sales of 1,781,001 during 2004 alone.

The question would be how many albums did they sell after 2002, including 1,781,001 for 2004.

In 2002, three of their albums were selling well: Greatest Hits, Greatest Hits II and Made In Heaven:

2001/10/24 Made In Heaven # 124 , 6 wks, 8,432
2001/11/21 Greatest Hits # 39 , 24 wks, 41,727
2001/11/21 Greatest Hits II # 192 , 7 wks, 6,850

Greatest Hits (2001) went Gold in early 2004 after shipping more than 100,000 copies, for example.

And, just like Made In Heaven was leading the pack as far as studio albums went, I would expect the others to have been doing well then (some probably selling 20,000 copies in those three years).

In 2005 they had another good year:

Queen Jewels – 91,202
Queen Jewels II – 65,371
Return Of The Champions – 31,907
A Night At The Opera – 6,114

A combined 188,480 copies sold. Of course, that is what those four albums sold while inside the weekly Top 300, actual sales were higher (except for Queen Jewels, which was set inside the ranking virtually the whole year, thus not missing any significant total). But Queen Jewels II, for instance, was certified Gold (100,000 sales) even though its weekly salea added up 65,371 copies (15 weeks on chart).

In 2006 Queen Jewels sold 25,907 during a few weeks (while charting).

In 2008 EMI reissued In Vision (a compilation originally from 2000), that sold 14,793 copies in 7 weeks. The album will have reached total sales of 20,000.

Queen Rock Montreal sold only 3,454 copies in three in November 2007. I imagine it totalled 10,000 when all was said and done.

Absolute Greatest acumulated 30,000 units in total between 2009 and 2010.

Their 2011 reissues amounted 54,990 in 2011, counting their charted weeks. Implying sales of around 100,000 by now when adding what they are selling outside of the Top 300.

Of course, we need to add back catalogue sales for the six years between 2005 and 2010: studio and live albums and also compilations.

Approximated total between 2002 and 2012 – 2,500,000

Music Videos

Greatest Video Hits [11,648]
Live At Wembley [27,118]
Greatest Video Hits 2 [9,758]
Jewels [33,799]
We Are The Champions: Final Live Japan [4,138]
Queen On Fire: Live At The Bowl [9,138]
Return Of The Champions [8,724]
Super Live In Japan [3,919]
Queen Rock Montreal [9,299]

Total – 117,541

As ever with Japan, these sales are just cumulative weekly charts sales of those DVDs, excluding what they sold once they left it, which always comes out as a complication: the whole ranking is only a Top 30 (not Top 300). So here we have substantial missing.

Overall they sold more than – 200,000 music videos

France

Album sales:

Total albums sales between 2003 and 2008 – 607,971

An avergae of 100,000 pieces a year. This includes 264,323 copies for Platinum Collection, 54,422 for Greatest Hits and 41,331 for Greatest Hits.

Note: Music Club sales are excluded, not something to minimize, considering that 11 Queen albums were available via Club Dial.

After that, Absolute Greatest was certified Gold in December 2010, with shipments of 50,000.

Since 2011, Greatest Hits, Greatest Hits II and Platinum Collection have regularly charted in the weekly Top 200, spending 23, 16 and 17 weeks respectively during the last 23 months.

Approximated total from 2002 to 2012 – 950,000

Music Videos

Certifications

The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert – 10,000 (in 2002)
Greatest Video Hits – 40,000 (2006)
Live At Wembley – 100,000 (2005)
Greatest Video Hits II – 20,000 (2005)
Queen On Fire – 60,000 (2005)
Return Of The Champions – 10,000 (2005)

Old awards. Live At Wembley went Diamond in April 2005, but sold 21,000 copies between that year and 2006 alone. Meaning that its sales were nearly 140,000 by 2010.

Same for other music videos.

Queen Rock Montreal reached 20,000 sold and there were some other titles not certified.

The reissue of Live At Wembley was very successful, estimated 20,000. And Hungarian Rhapsody recently made it to number 2 (it dropped to 19 this week anyway).

Total – 350,000

Unfortunately, there is no similar amount of details (annual sales for the whole catalogue) for other countries, but there are snippets of information which help one have an idea what they sold in very specific countries or regions:

Poland

Queen sold 1,000,000 since 2002, including 760,000 coming from the albums released by EMI in partner with Agora SA (local media company) between late 2008 and early 2009.

In addition, Platinum Collection sold more than 60,000 under EMI.

Plus, their whole catalogue reached about 50,000 since Universl Music picked up their rights in 2011.

A link with more details: http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.p ... start=2725

Brazil

From the codes gathered, covering 2003 to 2012, Queen shipped nearly 700,000 in Brazil, with 250,000 coming from their compilations Collection and Collection II, and also very good sales for their whole catalogue (including 25,000 for A Night At The Opera and at least 10,000 for just about all their studio albums). For further details, see this: http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.p ... start=2675.

Overall, Queen will have sold 750,000 from 2002 to this date.

Other than that, a more subtle work is needed in order for one to know what they sold in other countries. Some remarkable things:

Italy: Platinum Collection sold 320,000 in 2002 and 100,000 the following year, for a combined 420,000 during both and making it the best selling foreign record of that time period, and not to mention it continued to sell eventually (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2011 were its best years). But also, their back catalogue sold well, especially Live At Wembley, Greatest Hits II, Greatest Hits and some studio albums, such as Innuendo and A Night At The Opera. Absolute Greatest sold more 30,000 units in 2009.

Spain: here Platinum Collection had sold nearly 200,000 by December 2004 but it kept selling well since then (in fact, its 2011 reissue went gold, for 20,000 sales). In addition, many albums have recharted every now and then since 2005: A Night At The Opera (6 weeks), A Kind Of Magic (4 weeks), Live Magic (2 weeks), Innuendo (3 weeks), Live At Wembley (18 weeks), Greatest Hits (12 weeks), Greatest Hits II (13 weeks) and Greatest Hits III (4 weeks).

Netherlands: one of their strongest territories ever, which is very well known. As in other countries, Platinum Collection has come out as their biggest title in this last decade after certified double platinum in January 2005, for 160,000 and reaching now an estimated 200,000.

Belgium: their Platinum Collection reached 60,000 in 2004 and has easily gone on to reach 100,000, with impressive charts impact, peaking at number 3 in Wallonia (with 147 weeks in the official chart).

Ireland: similar to UK, just not as great.

Canada: historically sales are about 10% of what they are in USA. In this country, Greatest Hits sold 41,902, 36,647 and 43,508 in 2005, 2006 and 2007 respectively, a combined 124,057 in just three years (by comparison, in the USA it sold more than 1,000,000 over that time frame). Classic Queen and surprisingly Absolute Greatest also sold well in recent times.

South Korea: quite simply one of their most important markets, comparatively speaking. Greatest Hits was amongst the best selling international albums of 2002, selling 80,911 (cumulative was 553,238 by that year and in 2009 it had gone up to 600,000) and, in later years, Platinum Collection would do (a minimum) of 78,207 to mid 2008. Their move to Universal Music saw good signs of sales, only if interprted correctly -physical sales are very small these days-: Greatest Hits was the second best selling foreign album of 2011 (with 7,148 sold) and Greatest Hits II not that far behind (3,916), plus their whole back catalogue achieved confirmed sales of 18,870. Estimated album total was 25,000 for 2011, which sounds small but was more than enough for them to be the best selling Western act of the year.
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:43 pm

Digital downloads (since 2003)

USA

In the USA, Queen were reported to have reached 10,203,000 digital songs sold in September 2009, that means 38 months ago. Very important, because the digital market has experienced a significant growth since then.

In addition, Queen sold 1,725,000 tracks in 2008 alone.

Plus, ten of their songs have gathered sales of 13,500,000 put together. These are, of course, their most popular songs ever: Bohemian Rhapsody (more than 3,000,000), We Will Rock You (more than 2,000,000, on course to reach a similar milestone), We Are The Champions, Under Pressure, Another One Bites The Dust, Fat Bottomed Girls, Somebody To Love, You're My Best Friend, Crazy Little Thing Called Love and Killer Queen.

If I had to hazard a guess, I would say that Queen sold some 16,000,000 in the USA.

UK

In their home country, the Official Chart Company informed the band had racked up 2,090,000 digital downloads by December 2010.

While, Queen are supposed to have added a further 243,000 between April and October this year, leaving the whole of 2011 and aout half of 2012 missing. In normal case, a total of 3,000,000 should be estimated.

But I will opt for a more conservative (and safe) 2,500,000 total since OCC began tracking these sales

Japan

Certifications

I Was Born To Love You – 500,000 (in 2006)
I Was Born To Love You – 100,000 (2009)
We Will Rock You – 500,000 (2010)

Just two songs and 1,100,000.

I Was Born To Love You was certified for two different digital 'formats'. Those 500,000 sales for I Was Born To Love You were achieved in 2006; it is safe to say that it is now close to 1,000,000 (and we need to add the other 100,000 coming from other digital formats and more).

In total, Queen sold several million in Japan, difficult to know how many

When it comes to other countries, their Itunes positions suggest healthy sales everywhere and, every now and then, their signature songs make chart reappearances in different countries.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:47 pm

The above may be too much to diggest, at least for the casual viewer. This would be a summary:

2002 to 2012

Estimated sales per formats. This is as accurate as it can and, believe it or not, some totals are on the conservative side. The most important markets are very well covered.

Worldwide albums:

UK – nearly 5,200,000

Mainland Europe - 6,500,000, including:
Germany – 1,000,000
France – 950,000
Italy – 1,300,000
Spain – 600,000
Netherlands – 500,000
Sweden – 100,000
Switzerland – 150,000
Austria – 100,000
Finland – 75,000
Poland – 1,000,000
Belgium – 200,000
Ireland – 200,000
Norway – 100,000
Denmark – 100,000
Portugal – 50,000

USA – 7,400,000

Canada – 800,000

Japan – 2,500,000
South Korea – 300,000
Rest of Asia – 100,000

Oceania – 500,000

Latin America – 1,500,000 (includes 750,000 in Brazil alone)

South Africa – 100,000

Rest – 50,000

Approximated total – more than 25,000,000

Digital Downloads

USA – 16,000,000
UK – 2,500,000

Estimated worldwide – 25,000,000

Music Videos

UK – 1,200,000

Germany – 650,000
France – 350,000

USA – 1,000,000

Japan – 250,000

Oceania – 400,000

Worldwide – 7,000,000

In short:

Albums – 25,000,000
Digital downloads – 25,000,000
Music videos – 7,000,000

Or if you want, 58,000,000 records sold altogether. All estimated, but using reliable information and studied by someone who has been looking at this for years now.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:57 pm

As it can be seen, all impressive numbers, even in the USA: about 7,400,000 albums since 2002 isn't bad at all. Against common belief, Queen are actually quite strong in North America. Plus, they sold 1,000,000 DVDs and possibly 16,000,000 digital downloads (it was an impressive 10,203,000 by September 2009 and, by comparison, Maddona had sold only 100,000 more by then).

Queen's sales achievements are the ones getting the least fanfare amongst the biggest bands, whose marks are generally more celebrated. But when it comes down to it, Queen were able to sell an estimated 58,000,000 records since 2002.

Not sure how many old, classic bands have done more, to be honest.

The only bad thing, which I regret, is not knowing a bit more about Germany, one of the Top 5 markets worldwide. Madia Control is too secretive about sales.

But here is one interesting detail for 2005:

"The back catalogues of acts such as Queen and Depeche Mode also perform well - in 2005, 15 albums by the former were featured in the Top 5,000 albums".

No less than 15 albums charted in the annual Top 5000, which was seen as an important achievement. In fact, even better than Depeche Mode, who released a studio album that year and have been a very big band in the last decade.

Not much more for other years. But Germany is, or was, a very good place for the band and I wouldn't be surprised if they sold massively since 2002.

I estimated 1,000,000 since then, only fraction of what they did in the UK and even less than in Italy. It could be underestimated.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:02 am

Whatever that can be added or discussed will be welcomed.

Of course, I know many don't care about this. But I don't think it is bad to have one place to talk about this and add as much information as possible.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby soxtalon » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:42 pm

I don't have anything to really add but I wanted to say I appreciate all the info man :)
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby AlexKx » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:48 pm

Wow! Amazing information! A lot to talk about!
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:37 pm

Thank you, guys.

OK, moved to this section.

I put it on 'The Show Must Go On' because I had thought about posting chart updates every week and so on. But I guess it is all the same.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Loris1985 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:14 pm

Congratulations, Hernán - Excellent work!
58,000,000 records sold in the last 10 years is a sensational result for Queen, if we consider that there haven't been "exceptional" releases. In the last few years, albums and videos sales have declined, but this is a problem for the worldwide musical market. On the other hand, tha sales of digital tracks are increasing.
I think in USA, this year, Queen will exceed 1,000,000 downloads. I'm curious to see their total figures in UK, but, from the data we know, they will probably exceed 300,000 digital tracks. Moreover, in the rest of the world, the band is doing well.
Among the albums, Greatest Hits is always the best. In USA, the combined sales of Greatest Hits + Greatest Hits "We Will Rock You" have reached 210,000 copies and we are not at the end of the year yet. In UK, I think Greatest Hits is about 40,000 units, so, at the end of the year, we'll have 50,000 units or even more, for a total figure of 300,000 copies in two Countries only.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:29 pm

Thank you, Loris. I'm glad you liked it. :-D

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since September 2009, some of their albums have sold as follows in the USA:

Greatest Hits – 356,000
Greatest Hits: We Will Rock You – 249,000
Platinum Collection – about 140,000

That works out to be 745,000 off these three albums.

Assuming Classic Queen, Greatest Hits I & II and Absolute Greatest sold 75,000, 50,000 and 50,000 respectively, that would take us to 920,000 sold.

And then probably some 15,000 for other, minor albums (especially Greatest Hits II, released in May 2011, without much luck).

That is how I got to 950,000 for the past three years and two months.

Do you agree?
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Loris1985 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:58 pm

Yes, as to Greatest Hits and Greatest Hits We Will Rock You, Soundscan's data are 100% exact. With regard to the other ones, we can just make some extimations (not too difficult in case of Platinum Collection), anyway they seem to be very good: an average of 50,000 units per year.
From these data, we understand that also the other compilations sell rather well.
Unfortunately the studio albums are finding some difficulties, but this doesn't concern only the USA.
It would be very interesting to have some updated sales data for the studio albums, but I think that A Night At The Opera and News Of The World sell 4 or 5,000 copies per year, while the other ones maybe 2 or 3,000 units.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby QueenUSA » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:20 pm

That's a shame about the almost non-existent sales for the studio albums. In a perfect world I would have that there would be no compilations so that people could experience the whole studio album from which the "hit" came from. I'm quite the hypocrite in this regard, though, as I own numerous "greatest hits" CD's from numerous artists and I'm quite content with just that. :oops:
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Wild/Wind » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:26 pm

Few months ago I found this site: http://tsort.info/music/xceugk.htm

It has Queen chart entries in many countries and weeks on charts.
 
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Re: Queen's Sales and Charts

Postby Hernán » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:27 pm

Thank you, Loris. Great to know. Queen’s albums sales dropped a little bit in recent years, but the numbers for the past decade don’t lie.

From what I have estimated, we would have an approximated 7,400,000 albums sold, about 1,000,000 music videos and possibly some 16,000,000 digital downloads, putting Queen amongst the biggest bands in the United States. I still can’t believe how some people try to mock their success over there or diminish their stats.
 
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