yup, decision not to be vaccinated reassured again
it's easy to fool someone, but it's near impossible to convince someone they've been fooled
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Oh yes, I am sure you're right. People will never admit that - even to themselves.
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Remember when you spent month insisting Trump had been defrauded of an electionInnuendoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:42 pm Oh yes, I am sure you're right. People will never admit that - even to themselves.

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Go have yourself another vaccination or two or three. I'll wait.Leigh Burne wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:04 pmRemember when you spent month insisting Trump had been defrauded of an electionInnuendoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:42 pm Oh yes, I am sure you're right. People will never admit that - even to themselves.![]()
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things are starting to get moving
https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/ind ... n-research
Dear Dr. Bourla:
I write in response to troubling reports on Pfizer’s intention to mutate the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID) virus through gain-of-function, or “directed evolution,” as detailed by Pfizer Director of Research and Development, Jordan Walker. As has been proven time and time again, attempts to mutate a virus, particularly one as potent as COVID, are dangerous. If the claims detailed in the video are true, Pfizer has put its desire for profit over the concern of national and global health and must hold itself accountable.
In a video released by Project Veritas on January 25, 2023, Mr. Walker laid out Pfizer’s plans to develop new vaccines for future variants of COVID by mutating the virus through directed evolution, a process that uses protein engineering to impose natural selection on a living organism or other biological materials, including viruses. Though he claimed the research is currently “exploratory,” he detailed how the research would proceed, such as how scientists would inject the mutated viruses into monkeys and collect serial samples from other monkeys who are infected.
Whether it’s gain of function research, or selected structure mutations through directed evolution, as Mr. Walker claimed would occur, any effort to make a virus more transmittable and deadlier is careless and dangerous. Further, Mr. Walker stated that Pfizer is willing to engage in this dangerous research because COVID and its variants are “a cash cow” for the company and regulators will go easy on their efforts because a significant percentage of government officials aim to work for Pfizer and other biopharmaceutical companies and do not want to compromise their future job prospects.
As a company that claims to “innovate every day to make the world a healthier place,” these claims from your leadership charged with research and development are alarming. As the American people deserve to know, I request that you provide the following information:
1. What efforts is Pfizer currently, or planning to, engage in to mutate the SARS-CoV-2 virus?
2. Does Pfizer intend to continue mutating the SARS-CoV-2 virus through gain-of-function, or directed evolution research, with the purpose of creating new vaccines before the variant is present in the greater population?
3. Has Pfizer engaged with federal officials engaged regarding their plans to oversee this research? Please provide the names and agencies for these individuals.
4. What steps has Pfizer taken to ensure the mutated virus does not leak from the laboratory and infect the greater population?
5. Has Pfizer engaged with other biopharmaceutical companies to collaborate on this research effort? Please list the entities that you have been in contact with.
6. Will you commit to halting any future research that mutates the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine as substantial evidence has indicated that similar dangerous research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology very likely led to the initial emergence and global spread of the virus?
As a leader in global public health and development of the COVID vaccine, with American taxpayer dollars, it is critical that Pfizer is accountable for their actions and be transparent with the public on the substance and intent of their research.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your prompt response.
https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/ind ... n-research
Dear Dr. Bourla:
I write in response to troubling reports on Pfizer’s intention to mutate the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID) virus through gain-of-function, or “directed evolution,” as detailed by Pfizer Director of Research and Development, Jordan Walker. As has been proven time and time again, attempts to mutate a virus, particularly one as potent as COVID, are dangerous. If the claims detailed in the video are true, Pfizer has put its desire for profit over the concern of national and global health and must hold itself accountable.
In a video released by Project Veritas on January 25, 2023, Mr. Walker laid out Pfizer’s plans to develop new vaccines for future variants of COVID by mutating the virus through directed evolution, a process that uses protein engineering to impose natural selection on a living organism or other biological materials, including viruses. Though he claimed the research is currently “exploratory,” he detailed how the research would proceed, such as how scientists would inject the mutated viruses into monkeys and collect serial samples from other monkeys who are infected.
Whether it’s gain of function research, or selected structure mutations through directed evolution, as Mr. Walker claimed would occur, any effort to make a virus more transmittable and deadlier is careless and dangerous. Further, Mr. Walker stated that Pfizer is willing to engage in this dangerous research because COVID and its variants are “a cash cow” for the company and regulators will go easy on their efforts because a significant percentage of government officials aim to work for Pfizer and other biopharmaceutical companies and do not want to compromise their future job prospects.
As a company that claims to “innovate every day to make the world a healthier place,” these claims from your leadership charged with research and development are alarming. As the American people deserve to know, I request that you provide the following information:
1. What efforts is Pfizer currently, or planning to, engage in to mutate the SARS-CoV-2 virus?
2. Does Pfizer intend to continue mutating the SARS-CoV-2 virus through gain-of-function, or directed evolution research, with the purpose of creating new vaccines before the variant is present in the greater population?
3. Has Pfizer engaged with federal officials engaged regarding their plans to oversee this research? Please provide the names and agencies for these individuals.
4. What steps has Pfizer taken to ensure the mutated virus does not leak from the laboratory and infect the greater population?
5. Has Pfizer engaged with other biopharmaceutical companies to collaborate on this research effort? Please list the entities that you have been in contact with.
6. Will you commit to halting any future research that mutates the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine as substantial evidence has indicated that similar dangerous research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology very likely led to the initial emergence and global spread of the virus?
As a leader in global public health and development of the COVID vaccine, with American taxpayer dollars, it is critical that Pfizer is accountable for their actions and be transparent with the public on the substance and intent of their research.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your prompt response.
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I've had three, my partner has had four and my parents have had five, and we're all fine, you absolute muppetInnuendoes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:19 pmGo have yourself another vaccination or two or three. I'll wait.

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People challenging quite how many have died from COVID. Remind you of a Roger Taylor lyric?
"They're saying now, it never happened"
"They're saying now, it never happened"
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All the excuses in the world do not mean those fibers aren't growing inside the veins where they were found by embalmers... only in people who had a COVID vaccine, but never seen before in anyone else.
And then we have Pfizer admitting they're developing more and more mutations to make more money off the people who will get more vaccinations but, oh, someone said in a song, it never happened, how many years ago, before it ever existed?
And then we have Pfizer admitting they're developing more and more mutations to make more money off the people who will get more vaccinations but, oh, someone said in a song, it never happened, how many years ago, before it ever existed?
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There's a place in Wiltshire called Porton Down, that develops nerve gas and all sorts of nasties, they say it's so they test with the stuff, and find things to disable them when they're used against us.
It makes a certain amount of sense to me, that if someone's trying to find a cure for something, they need to make the pathogen they're trying to wipe out, and all logical mutations of it.
Now you can argue that Pfizer are creating coronavirus, it's not whether they are, but more's the question, WHY? Are their intentions sinister, or neccessary?
What MP was on about, two sides to every story, it's your choice which one you trust, but at least listen to both of them, before you write one side off.
It makes a certain amount of sense to me, that if someone's trying to find a cure for something, they need to make the pathogen they're trying to wipe out, and all logical mutations of it.
Now you can argue that Pfizer are creating coronavirus, it's not whether they are, but more's the question, WHY? Are their intentions sinister, or neccessary?
What MP was on about, two sides to every story, it's your choice which one you trust, but at least listen to both of them, before you write one side off.