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I'm quite happy agreeing to disagree.

I can see who's been banned and for what, and who's been warned for what.

The offences include extensive trolling, extensive spamming, promoting illegal downloads, and linking to them. Linking to pornography. Accusing people of committing criminal offences without any reasonable proof. Excessive insulting behavior. And a few others.

I can't say I know of anyone banned or warned, just for politely disagreeing with anybody.

As weemann said earlier, people have opinions, and we're not always aligned with the opinions of others. But there has to be a line in the sand, when a discussion turns into an abusive argument.

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Kes wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:35 pm I'm quite happy agreeing to disagree.

I can see who's been banned and for what, and who's been warned for what.

The offences include extensive trolling, extensive spamming, promoting illegal downloads, and linking to them. Linking to pornography. Accusing people of committing criminal offences without any reasonable proof. Excessive insulting behavior. And a few others.

I can't say I know of anyone banned or warned, just for politely disagreeing with anybody.

As weemann said earlier, people have opinions, and we're not always aligned with the opinions of others. But there has to be a line in the sand, when a discussion turns into an abusive argument.
I have never had an issue with you about any of this. In fact, I have never had an issue with you full stop. I find you fair and open-minded and quite decent.

But not all mods think or feel like you. And I have to disagree about the reasons for the bans. Some get warnings for merely disagreeing with others on here. Those warnings then turn into bans. It works something like this: someone has a pop at another - that other person replies and defends themselves and then get the warning (this has happened more than once to me and to others).

My only issue with certain mods here is fairness. That's it. I don't care about their politics (even though I can vehemently oppose them) or their personal views - everyone is entitled to feel as they wish. I only care about equality here.

We are all adults here. We should all be able to get along nicely enough. And as long as it is a fair system then it should all be fine.

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It's about as fair a system as it's probably going to get.

Problems get discussed in a private area, and I don't think anyone gets a ban unless we've come to a conclusion on an issue as a group. We all know the member of the Queen product team who runs the site well enough that he thinks it's a balanced team.

Arguments happen on here, we all know that. The rate of acceleration to an argument turning inflamatory can sometimes be almost scary.

However, people will be allowed to get away with quite a bit, as none of us like the idea of an over-moderated site, but we DO have to have limits.

I think it's fair to say, all the mods know, and trust each other to moderate as impartially, and fairly as possible. It's taken quite a long time to get that far. If you don't see it that way, I'm sorry, but there's plenty of places you can't say anything negative, and other places where you can say too much.

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Kes wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:41 pm It's about as fair a system as it's probably going to get.

Problems get discussed in a private area, and I don't think anyone gets a ban unless we've come to a conclusion on an issue as a group. We all know the member of the Queen product team who runs the site well enough that he thinks it's a balanced team.

Arguments happen on here, we all know that. The rate of acceleration to an argument turning inflamatory can sometimes be almost scary.

However, people will be allowed to get away with quite a bit, as none of us like the idea of an over-moderated site, but we DO have to have limits.

I think it's fair to say, all the mods know, and trust each other to moderate as impartially, and fairly as possible. It's taken quite a long time to get that far.
Again, I shall have to respectfully disagree. I have seen too much. But, of course, I am talking about events in the past. It may well have changed in the last year or so.

And I agree about Nick. He always seems fair. But he only sees so much unless something is brought to his attention.

I really cannot argue with you about how it works - you have an advantage over me there. I can only say how I perceive things and
I stand by my feelings on this. But I am grateful you have taken the time to give the other side. Cheers.

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No problem.

Nick is a busy man, besides running this place, he also has to run the main site, and administer the store. He's also the PR link for a few other artists, but he does keep a fairly solid overview on here.

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MusicalProstitute wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:08 pm
Lord of all darkness wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:52 pm

Wrong, during the Covid Pandemic, all the RWNJs are the ones saying we are all asleep and need to wake up to their weird view if the world.

What do you have against the middle class? You seem to be the one with the problem?
Well, no though. Not wrong at all. You need to get yourself a dictionary and look at the definition of Woke and then come back and we can try again.

As for my dislike of the Middle Classes? Where have I explicitly stated I dislike all those who are born Middle Class? So let us try that one again too. And stop asking me pointless questions when it is bleeding obvious you just want to oppose whatever I say. Pointless.
You have misunderstood what i have said. Yes, you and Kes are absolutely correct on the definition of #woke. I am saying that it has now been hijacked by RWNJs. Like i said earlier, it is not a Right or Left label anymore.

Another question would be; do you think the Covidiots in the UK are RWNJ's or Lefties? In Australia and the US they seem to be on the extreme right?

As for class, thank god I live in Oz. The class system is nonexistent. I work in a very senior position in a white collar job. On my days off, I am always out on the farm where I live. Fixing fences, Mowing, Brush-cutting and many more very manual jobs. I don't call my self, working or middle class. I just get on with things.

My politics are on the left side of the pendulum, but generally in the Center. I don't think Trump is Right wing by the way. His policies seem all over the place. My problem is that he is not Presidential. What I mean by that is that his outbursts on Twitter, take away from his policies. It also demeans the position of President. I also think he is in it for himself, so I would ask any supporters to name a policy that has made their life better than it was before he took office?

As for my pointless question. I am happy to have a reasoned debate with anyone. But as you seem to troll the so called #woke, I am not sure you can do reasoned debate. By the way, you can try and insult me to drive me off. Good luck with that, I am 6ft tall over a hundred kilo's and thrive on conflict.

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Kes wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:25 pm Just trying to explain it in terminology that me, and the average oik can understand.

The views aren't linear, as some people buying their own houses, aren't right of centre, and some people earning lots of money, might well be socialist. It's not that predictable.

There's many people who's politics might not match their finacial circumstances. That's life.
Most don't even know the difference between Facism, Socialism and Communism? But i am sure there are those that berate the last two whilst receiving government handouts.

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Kes wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:41 pm It's about as fair a system as it's probably going to get.

Problems get discussed in a private area, and I don't think anyone gets a ban unless we've come to a conclusion on an issue as a group. We all know the member of the Queen product team who runs the site well enough that he thinks it's a balanced team.

Arguments happen on here, we all know that. The rate of acceleration to an argument turning inflamatory can sometimes be almost scary.

However, people will be allowed to get away with quite a bit, as none of us like the idea of an over-moderated site, but we DO have to have limits.

I think it's fair to say, all the mods know, and trust each other to moderate as impartially, and fairly as possible. It's taken quite a long time to get that far. If you don't see it that way, I'm sorry, but there's plenty of places you can't say anything negative, and other places where you can say too much.
I once received an official warning from Loretta many years ago. I can't remember for what though? Probably for spelling fairydandy with a capital F..

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Lord of all darkness wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:28 pm
Kes wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:41 pm It's about as fair a system as it's probably going to get.

Problems get discussed in a private area, and I don't think anyone gets a ban unless we've come to a conclusion on an issue as a group. We all know the member of the Queen product team who runs the site well enough that he thinks it's a balanced team.

Arguments happen on here, we all know that. The rate of acceleration to an argument turning inflamatory can sometimes be almost scary.

However, people will be allowed to get away with quite a bit, as none of us like the idea of an over-moderated site, but we DO have to have limits.

I think it's fair to say, all the mods know, and trust each other to moderate as impartially, and fairly as possible. It's taken quite a long time to get that far. If you don't see it that way, I'm sorry, but there's plenty of places you can't say anything negative, and other places where you can say too much.
I once received an official warning from Loretta many years ago. I can't remember for what though? Probably for spelling fairydandy with a capital F..
Most warnings are based on complaints and he always complained about that, so the odds are good.

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I can go back to work next week thankfully which is very surprising considering the restrictions being places on other facilities in which people gather. No chairs, no live sport to be shown and people's time in the shop limited. Cannot wait for the details to be confirmed.

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