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The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:08 pm
by TheHero
I have read somewhere that this was the first song recorded by Queen.. is that true ?


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In my opinion one of the most underrated Queen songs. I think it is one of the best songs on their debut album, and ranks high on my list of favourite Queen songs.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:50 am
by The__KingOfRhye
At the very least it's the earliest-recorded song by Queen to make it to an album, if you don't count the De Lane Lea demos being on the 2011 remaster's bonus ep as 'making it to an album', anyway.

I read somewhere that Son and Daughter was the first song they played with John in the band.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:02 pm
by Kes
To explain further, the first recordings the band did, were a set of demos at DeLane Lea studios, Wembley. The studios agreed to let Queen use their facilities in exchange for the band helping them to acoustically test the studios for them.

These demos were then used to try and get the band a recording deal with potential labels.

Eventually, Queen signed to a production company called Trident, who then got the band to record in their studios in St Anne's Court in Soho, London, pending a record deal that they would sort out (eventually with EMI for most of the world, and Elemtra for the USA, Canada, Australsia and Japan).

Try as they may, in the case of The Night Comes Down, the band came to the conclusion that they couldn't improve on the original demo recording of the song, so that version was included on the first album, the becoming the earliest Queen recording commercially available, until the release of the whole set of DeLane Lea demos, on the bonus CD included on the 2011 remaster edition of Queen.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:39 pm
by The__KingOfRhye
What would be interesting to hear is the rejected version of that...the one that they didn't feel was an improvement.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:43 pm
by AlexKx
Classic, phenomenal, unparalleled song! I just wish that they did not say, "Lucy was high and so was I.". I guess it some how shows who and where they were in their lives at the time though perhaps...

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:16 pm
by TheHero
I think the lyrics are about how things are so distinctive when you are young. You are happy, enjoying life (high and dazzling). Things are simple and logic. The colours are black and white (bad or good).. easy to separate. You hold the World inside you. You think you have control. When you are young it is easy to trust in people (laugh with everyone). But as you grow older things that were so distinctive, turn out to be more unclear, grey instead of black and white. It is sort of like the more you learn, the more you realize that the world is not so obvious or easy to understand. The night comes down, and it is dark again, a symbolic picture of how things in colours turn grey at night; you get confused or afraid of losing control in the dark; things in life are not so easy to understand anymore. The colours are grey. You get afraid of losing your way.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:40 pm
by nicksmithworld
Black and White aren't colours.

Yours pedantically.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:25 pm
by The__KingOfRhye
I wonder if the "Lucy was high" line is a reference to Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds...

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:18 pm
by Kes
Brian is, and was, a very big Beatles fan, so I guess it's fairly likely.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:27 pm
by The__KingOfRhye
Kes wrote:Brian is, and was, a very big Beatles fan, so I guess it's fairly likely.


I think I've read somewhere that 1984 would do Yesterday with Brian on vocals.

Edit: http://www.queenconcerts.com/live/brian-may/early.html

No Yesterday, but a set list of a 1984 concert with 3 Beatles songs, so there we go. ;)

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:07 pm
by AlexKx
That's what I thought too, dude! Concerning the Lucy reference! Well, unless someone tells me otherwise I will at the least i.d. the thought as a considered theorized possibility! :)

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:33 pm
by TheHero
Yep, Lucy is probably a reference to Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, LSD.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:53 pm
by Capt. Den Ronson
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Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:24 pm
by sebastian
The__KingOfRhye wrote:What would be interesting to hear is the rejected version of that...the one that they didn't feel was an improvement.


There may be no rejected version of that. It's likely that they added the 1971 version because it was the only one they ever recorded. They had time to re-record the other four (and then re-re-record KYA a month or so before its release as single) but perhaps not that one.

Re: The Night Comes Down - first song by Queen ?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:52 pm
by Kes
I thought it was in an interview, where they said that they couldn't better the DeLane Lea version, of course that's assuming they even tried, but given those words, it's a fair assumption that they had a go.