Uncharted Territory Forerunners

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Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby sebastian » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:35 pm

I think it deserves its own topic.

Queen started off their touring life by playing some local concerts (their first concert outside England was their 45th), then going to other parts of the anglo-sphere (Australia, Scotland, Wales, America, Canada, Ireland), as well as Western Europe (Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, West Germany, France, Scandinavia, Spain and Belgium).

In the 1980's they went to uncharted territories, places where no other English-speaking act had ever been too... except that they totally had. It wasn't by any means common to go to those places in South America (Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela), Africa (Sun City), Eastern Europe (Hungary) or North America (Mexico), but it doesn't mean Queen were the first ones to go there.

So, some forerunners:

ACDC: They went to both Hungary and Poland in 1981, a month or two before Queen's first gig in South America. They also went to Czechoslovakia in 1982 and again Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia in 1984. Their visit to Italy predated Queen's by about a week. By the time Queen played in Budapest, ACDC had been there thrice (1981, 1984 and early 1986).

Barry White: Venezuela in 1977.

Bob Dylan: Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1984. He also went to Italy before Queen.

Bob Marley: Poland in 1978, Ivory Coast, Bahamas and T&T in 1979, Ghana in 1980.

Bon Jovi: Puerto Rico in 1984 and 1985.

David Bowie: Singapore, Hong Kong and Thailand in 1983.

Depeche Mode: China and Thailand in 1983. Czechoslovakia, Poland, Northern Ireland and (before Queen) Italy in 1984. Hungary, Greece and (again) Poland in 1985.

Dire Straits: Poland in 1981, Poland (again) and Czechoslovakia in 1983, Israel, Greece, Czechoslovakia and Serbia in 1985.

Donna Summer: Venezuela in 1977.

Elton John: Sun City a year before Queen; in 1984 he also went to China, Yugoslavia (Queen'd already played in Croatia, but not in Serbia or Bosnia), Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Poland. He visited New Zealand long before Queen did and, unlike Queen, he did play in Northern Ireland.

Iron Maiden: Serbia in 1981. Hungary, Poland, Portugal and Serbia (again) in 1984.

Jackson Five: Japan in 1973 (before Queen). 1974 in Panama, Brazil, Hong Kong and Philippines. In 1976 they went to Venezuela and again The Philippines.

Jools Holland: Venezuela in 1981 (before Queen).

Leonard Cohen: Israel in 1980. Poland, Portugal and (again) Israel in 1985.

Mike Oldfield: Greece, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Israel in 1981.

Peter Frampton: Venezuela in 1980.

Pink Floyd: Japan long before Queen. Also Poland in 1973.

The Hollies: Venezuela in 1977.

The Jacksons: 1979 in South Africa and Senegal.

The Police: In 1980 they went to India, Portugal, Mexico and Argentina. In 1981 they went to Caracas (before Queen did), 1982 to Chile and Italy, 1983 to Poland.

The Who: Poland in 1972.

Tina Turner: Venezuela in 1979, Hungary in 1985.

U2: 1984 and 1985 in Czechoslovakia.

Van Halen: Peru and Uruguay in 1983.

XTC: Venezuela in 1981 (before Queen).

Yes: 1973 in Mexico.
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby Wild/Wind » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:27 am

I think when Queen played in Yugoslavia, they didn't say it was the first act there. Also their S.America and Hungary shows were the first in huge scale, stadiums, equipment etc. Many other bands and acts had visited those territories but in smaller scale.
 
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby Wild/Wind » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:44 am

Rolling stones played in Greece 1967 or 68
Rory Gallagher also in 1980
Police in 1981
Motorhead in 1984
The clash last concert in 1985 (video exist)
Iron Maiden 1988
Pink Floyd 1989
Alice Cooper 1990
 
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby sebastian » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:01 pm

Wild/Wind wrote:I think when Queen played in Yugoslavia, they didn't say it was the first act there. Also their S.America and Hungary shows were the first in huge scale, stadiums, equipment etc. Many other bands and acts had visited those territories but in smaller scale.


Other acts went to the exact same stadiums, so it wasn't in a smaller scale.
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby Wild/Wind » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:55 pm

It is different to play on a stadium and the tickets sales are half or little higher instead of a sold out. However Queen Brazilian, Argentina, Venezuela and Mexico were sold out, big in production and many management teams were looking for Queen feedback.

After the tour ended many bands and acts were planing to tour, one of them were Van Halen.

Its like the capacity of the Rock in Rio gigs. During Queen's headline, both nights were over 250.000 each, while during Yes, ACDC the capacity was smaller.
 
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby sebastian » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:16 pm

Yeah, Queen's concerts in South America and Mexico were great, but it doesn't mean they were the first to go there, the first to go there and be successful or the first to go there and take a big show.

The world doesn't revolve around Roger, Freddie, John and Brian.
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby Waggoner Will » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:47 pm

What the fuck is this point of this thread? Some acts played countries before Queen? So fucking what?

The world indeed does not revolve around Queen... No-one said it did...

Why the buggery fuck, Sebastian, do you get so fucking arsehole precious the moment someone challenges you..?

Who the fuck do you think you are just because you compile anally retentive lists on which member of Queen favoured long socks, or whatever the fuck it is you do...

And I await the, "ooh, don't insult the enyclopaedica sebastinaca, he's made lists you know..."

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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby sebastian » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:16 am

Using expletives won't make your point come across any better.

I do not get precious when challenged. Not at all. I've been wrong many times and I'm happy to admit so. I've also been right many times and I'm also happy to admit so.

The point of this thread is mention forerunners. It's quite clear on the title.

It doesn't take away any of the band's skills, fame, fortune '...and everything that goes with it.' It does, however, illustrate a more unbiased view on how their visits to those countries might have been influenced (or not, as they could've been coincidental) by other people doing the same some years earlier.

You don't have to like this thread, or agree with it, but using foul language is completely uncalled for.
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Re: Uncharted Territory Forerunners

Postby Wild/Wind » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:01 am

Queen always were popular and ofcourse the world was never spining around them, they just got in the eye of narrow minded critics. They had brilliant ideas some of the needed time to be acceptable or people to understand them.

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