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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby YAFF » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:09 am

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Alright. So the universe required certain conditions to come into existence in the way that it did. You say that logically, before that, there was an unconditioned reality. I accept that if any of the fundamental constants of the universe had been different, the universe too would be very different, but can you prove that there's any way they COULD have been different? In other words, can you prove that they were conditioned, and therefore can you prove that the universe is therefore not the unconditioned reality itself?


I haven't brought up the "fundamental constants" in my argument yet so I'm not sure why you smuggled that it. Seems like a strawman to me. The universe cannot be the UC because the universe had a beginning. It at one time did not exist, which is impossible for the UC. Ex nihilo nihil fit "Out of nothing. nothing comes".

However, "from something, something comes".
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Elessar » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:40 am

Fundamental constants, 'conditions' (a word that is sort of implied by 'unconditioned')...call them what you like.

If time only exists within the universe, the concept of it having a 'beginning' is meaningless, and so the idea of anything before it is equally meaningless. So actually yeah, fine, let's call that meaningless unnecessary non-existent thing God.
 
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Capt. Den Ronson » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:47 pm

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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby action » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:55 pm

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we dont need pictures of your old folk banging, capt 8-)
I see you standing there. You think you so cool. Why don't you just..... fuck off!
 
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Capt. Den Ronson » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:01 pm

action wrote:we dont need pictures of your old folk banging, capt 8-)


Ha! That's Elessar [down under] 'sticking it' to YAFF.
 
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby icy » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:44 pm

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Capt. Den Ronson wrote:Image


we dont need pictures of your old folk banging, capt 8-)

Well, at least its not a pic of capt banging. Or sticking it to...anyone. :crazy:
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Elessar » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:00 am

As a comparison, 3.14159 is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, and is an incredibly important constant in physics, mathematics, and pretty much every field that uses them. If it had a different value, it would have huge ripple effects across chemistry, biology, engineering and suchlike.

But does that mean it was conditioned to be as such? I'd say no. Maybe pi was always going to be pi. The shape of a circle, by its very nature, defines it as such. Likewise the strength of gravity, of the strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, and of electromagnetism, may not be the variables that we sometimes assume they could be. In other words, they could be unconditioned.

Equally they could well be conditioned. I don't know. And neither does YAFF.
 
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby YAFF » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:09 pm

Capt. Den Ronson wrote:
action wrote:we dont need pictures of your old folk banging, capt 8-)


Ha! That's Elessar [down under] 'sticking it' to YAFF.


Craptn everyone here know you're too stupid to even understand what Elessar and I are talking about. But, please, continue to embarrass yourself. Oh and wipe your forehead, Some of Elessar's jizz is still there.
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby YAFF » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:15 pm

Elessar wrote:Fundamental constants, 'conditions' (a word that is sort of implied by 'unconditioned')...call them what you like.

If time only exists within the universe, the concept of it having a 'beginning' is meaningless, and so the idea of anything before it is equally meaningless. So actually yeah, fine, let's call that meaningless unnecessary non-existent thing God.


No you smuggled in a different issue (the fine tuning of the universe) where it does not necessarily belong. You just set up a strawman. Nice try tho. Time had a beginning and that is not meaningless to anyone that actually understands it. I'm starting to think you are considerably overrated for your intelligence here. Anyway, you will notice at no "time" did I speak of a "before time" since that is truly meaningless. Another strawman :roll:

You still haven't proven the non-existence of the UC, while I have proven logically it must exist. Try again. This time actually refer to what I argued.
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby YAFF » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:23 pm

icy wrote:
action wrote:
Capt. Den Ronson wrote:Image


we dont need pictures of your old folk banging, capt 8-)

Well, at least its not a pic of capt banging. Or sticking it to...anyone. :crazy:
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You notice that Craptin and Elloser always seem to post at roughly the same time? Either they are the same moronic douchebag or Craptin' is his cheerleader


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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Capt. Den Ronson » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:25 pm

YAFF wrote:Craptn everyone here know you're too stupid to even understand what Elessar and I are talking about. But, please, continue to embarrass yourself. Oh and wipe your forehead, Some of Elessar's jizz is still there.


Not far off. I marvel at some of Elessar's wisdom and had-to-hand combat when he's delivering those devastating right blows and left uppercuts to your 'arguments'.
You're correct about not understanding your gibberish though :lol:

Elessar, have you tried eating pineapple or cinnamon? This stuff is really salty :-|
 
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Capt. Den Ronson » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:26 pm

YAFF wrote:I found a photo of Craptin
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That is actually giving me the horn :oops: :inlove:
 
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby Zeistlander » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:49 pm

Capt. Den Ronson wrote:
YAFF wrote:I found a photo of Craptin
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That is actually giving me the horn :oops: :inlove:


Is that supposed to be a picture of Sailor Moon but heavily sodomised to the point of embarrassment? :biggrin:
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby YAFF » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:02 pm

Capt. Den Ronson wrote:
YAFF wrote:Craptn everyone here know you're too stupid to even understand what Elessar and I are talking about. But, please, continue to embarrass yourself. Oh and wipe your forehead, Some of Elessar's jizz is still there.


Not far off. I marvel at some of Elessar's wisdom and had-to-hand combat when he's delivering those devastating right blows and left uppercuts to your 'arguments'.
You're correct about not understanding your gibberish though :lol:


Since you don't understand my "gibberish" you are not in a position to judge whether Elessar's "wisdom and hand-to-hand combat, when he's delivering those devastating right blows-" have any relevance or impact. Alas, they do not but you already admit you're too stupid to understand all this...yet you continue to ride Elessar's jock. You're choice of words is revealing: "hand-to-hand" and "blows". Both things you'd like to give Elessar. Again, you are not fooling anyone. You and Elessar are either the same douchebag or a plant/friend of Elessar to cheer on his losing argument. Kinda pathetic really.
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Re: I FOUND A PHOTO OF FAIRYDANDY!

Postby YAFF » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:05 pm

Capt. Den Ronson wrote:
YAFF wrote:I found a photo of Craptin
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That is actually giving me the horn :oops: :inlove:


When one is as hard up, desperate and unattractive as you are just about anything would give you the horn. Especially Elessar. BTW I found a photo of Elessar:

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