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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:34 am

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musicalprostitute wrote:Please just grow up. Your constant whining and digging - with added bullshit - just gets so boring.

Just to reiterate what I actually said again (yawn): I stated that to use violence to stop free speech is a leftie trait; how on earth this makes Mogg a leftie in your eyes I do not know.


The photos that I provided show that the violence was started by one of Rees-Mogg’s team.

I didn’t say that this makes him a leftie in my eyes. I know the difference between left wing and right wing because I was paying attention in school when I was around 11. You however said this:

musicalprostitute wrote:And if the tories you mention used violence to prevent free speech then I see them as having leftie traits (it matters not to me, mate).



musicalprostitute wrote:And you are a true leftie. Well, you certainly have leftie traits. All the accusations and all the baiting, combined with misinformation and forever repeating yourself about the same things on and on and on...yup, a leftie for sure. I did rethink my opinion of you some weeks back, but this has proven beyond doubt what you are. But, each to their own (I know that is hard for someone like you to swallow...but there you go).


You’ve become so attached to your strange definition of the left-wing that I understand it would take a huge step-down to accept that you’re using the wrong words, but continuing this silliness is a sunken cost fallacy. It’s reached a point where I don’t even know what you’re accusing me of, because when you use the word ‘leftie’ it really is completely meaningless; like a 5 year old calling another 5 year old ‘gay’ as a generic insult.


Good for you for paying attention at school aged 11 - now, if you could only move on from that mental age maybe I could debate things with you in the proper fashion (as opposed to you posting little digs to make some sad point that no one gives a shit about).

OK. Here goes: you have leftit traits. Leftie traits include: seeing racism and sexism everywhere (especially where it is not); believing that you are somewhat important and that your patronising, arrogant points actually prove anything other than you being a patronsing, arrogant individual; constant attacking of our wonderfully tolerant and democratic country (very big leftie trait); complete abhorrence of the English flag...because a minority group use it for their pathetic reasons; and, lastly, being a very sensitive flower: 'mummy's boys' is sexist, blah, blah and blah - lefties are always very sensitive things with skin about as thick as tissue paper. Now, if I can be bothered, I may educate you on some more leftie traits (although you already know what they are if you look at the way you behave).

Have a think. Try and take on board the truth. Don't be so sensitive. And accept your leftie traits. Good lad.
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:40 am

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Well, you certainly have leftie traits. All the accusations and all the baiting, combined with misinformation and forever repeating yourself about the same things on and on and on


Those are traits I've seen at least just as much among right-wingers as among left-wingers. I always thought being "left-wing" or "right-wing" was about your political philosophy, not any personal traits....

It's kinda starting to sound like how some people throw around the word "fascist". It's almost lost its meaning, now it just basically means "those people I don't like."

Or the rather annoying ultra-super-conservative woman who I've had a bit of a battle with on another site....according to her, anyone she doesn't like, and is even slightly to the left of her, is an "alt-left lunatic" or something. (and I'm not sure what "alt-left" means either)


Well, you are only stating what many of us have had to deal with in recent years: the lefties playing the racist and sexist cards every five minutes (I mean, they are even saying that the shit US comedy Friends is sexist, racist and transphobic now).

They throw around the word 'racist' all the time (because they cannot argue maturely); that word is losing it's meaning too - because of them. And I do not want to live in a world where things like racism are not taken seriously...but the lefties are doing their best to make everything a mockery.

I only direct the word leftie at people like Roger (those who play the racist and sexist card every five minutes). I do not throw that word around lightly. I think there are one or two hard lefties on this site (Roger being the most vocal), but I know the difference between their extremism and the normal behaviour of moderate folks on the left (who I have the utmost respect for).
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby Roger » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:59 pm

musicalprostitute wrote:I only direct the word leftie at people like Roger (those who play the racist and sexist card every five minutes). I do not throw that word around lightly. I think there are one or two hard lefties on this site (Roger being the most vocal), but I know the difference between their extremism and the normal behaviour of moderate folks on the left (who I have the utmost respect for).


There we go again with that ‘every five minutes’ delusion. By continuing a false claim that is demonstrably false all you do is further undermine the other false claims you frequently make that aren’t so easy to rapidly refute.

The reality is that if I am a ‘leftie’ I’m not even moderate, I’m mild. I lost another £1.5k on the stock market today. Not exactly the hallmarks of a leftie, eh?
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Re: In the news today

Postby Roger » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:08 pm

musicalprostitute wrote:Good for you for paying attention at school aged 11 - now, if you could only move on from that mental age maybe I could debate things with you in the proper fashion (as opposed to you posting little digs to make some sad point that no one gives a shit about).

OK. Here goes: you have leftit traits. Leftie traits include: seeing racism and sexism everywhere (especially where it is not); believing that you are somewhat important and that your patronising, arrogant points actually prove anything other than you being a patronsing, arrogant individual; constant attacking of our wonderfully tolerant and democratic country (very big leftie trait); complete abhorrence of the English flag...because a minority group use it for their pathetic reasons; and, lastly, being a very sensitive flower: 'mummy's boys' is sexist, blah, blah and blah - lefties are always very sensitive things with skin about as thick as tissue paper. Now, if I can be bothered, I may educate you on some more leftie traits (although you already know what they are if you look at the way you behave).

Have a think. Try and take on board the truth. Don't be so sensitive. And accept your leftie traits. Good lad.


The interesting thing about this latest diatribe is that if you look through all my posts, I always argue with the points you make rather than resorting to insults, whereas you resort to insults almost immediately. Personally I’d call that a very poor character trait, but not one specific to anybody any political ideology. Maybe I’m wrong though, maybe resorting to insults and name-calling is a ‘rightie trait’?

I didn’t say that “mummy’s boy” is sexist. I said that suggesting that ones ability to take part in politics is based on their masculinity is sexist, which it clearly is.

You’ve proven yourself time and time again to be someone incapable of forming a single coherent argument or thought, combined with a pig-headed refusal to accept facts when they are presented unambiguously and objectively. You continue to push false accusations despite them being demonstrated to be false, and use hyperbole whilst bemoaning it in others.

Basically, you’re not worth my time and I don’t think I have anything to gain from enabling you and giving you a platform for your vitriol.
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:11 pm

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musicalprostitute wrote:I only direct the word leftie at people like Roger (those who play the racist and sexist card every five minutes). I do not throw that word around lightly. I think there are one or two hard lefties on this site (Roger being the most vocal), but I know the difference between their extremism and the normal behaviour of moderate folks on the left (who I have the utmost respect for).


There we go again with that ‘every five minutes’ delusion. By continuing a false claim that is demonstrably false all you do is furthermore undermine the other false claims you frequently make that aren’t so easy to rapidly refute.

The reality is that if I am a ‘leftie’ I’m not even moderate, I’m mild. I lost another £1.5k on the stock market today. Not exactly the hallmarks of a leftie, eh?


Well, you do make an accusation every five minutes (OK, so not literally every five minutes - we are not all as pedantic as you): if it is not racism it is sexism...and so it goes on and on and on.

I don't really care how much money you have lost and I find your statement rather vulgar. The biggest leftie trait is hypocrisy, so it really is what I would expect.
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:18 pm

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musicalprostitute wrote:Good for you for paying attention at school aged 11 - now, if you could only move on from that mental age maybe I could debate things with you in the proper fashion (as opposed to you posting little digs to make some sad point that no one gives a shit about).

OK. Here goes: you have leftit traits. Leftie traits include: seeing racism and sexism everywhere (especially where it is not); believing that you are somewhat important and that your patronising, arrogant points actually prove anything other than you being a patronsing, arrogant individual; constant attacking of our wonderfully tolerant and democratic country (very big leftie trait); complete abhorrence of the English flag...because a minority group use it for their pathetic reasons; and, lastly, being a very sensitive flower: 'mummy's boys' is sexist, blah, blah and blah - lefties are always very sensitive things with skin about as thick as tissue paper. Now, if I can be bothered, I may educate you on some more leftie traits (although you already know what they are if you look at the way you behave).

Have a think. Try and take on board the truth. Don't be so sensitive. And accept your leftie traits. Good lad.


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Basically, you’re not worth my time and I don’t think I have anything to gain from enabling you and giving you a platform for your vitriol.


You do not give me a platform; I do. And I will state the truth whenever I wish, regardless if you can handle the facts or not. I gave you a chance to play with the big boys and debate maturely - you chose the other, more leftie, route.

And we have been here before, lad: you realising you are wrong and then stating that I am not worth your time or whatever. There is a distinct pattern with you: accuse, realise you have been found out, run away. And on and on and on and on. I really do not want to waste my time with someone who is obsessed with colour and sees negativity everywhere, but I will not run away as I know I am right.
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby Roger » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:30 pm

The musicalprostitute guide to mass debate

1) Struggling to keep up? Start throwing out terms like ‘fella’, ‘lad, ‘son’ etc.
2) Still struggling? Categorise all the opposing views as ‘leftie’.
3) Said something offensive? Rather than apologise, attack those who call you out - see article 2.
4) Been caught out? Say you didn’t mean it literally; accuse the opponent of being pedantic.
5) Exhausted all opportunities to indicate a capability of any kind of critical thought? Say that the opponent has lost, and declare victory.

As they say, it’s like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn’t really matter how well you play. In the end, the pigeon will knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around acting like he’s won.
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:42 pm

Roger wrote:The musicalprostitute guide to mass debate

1) Struggling to keep up? Start throwing out terms like ‘fella’, ‘lad, ‘son’ etc.
2) Still struggling? Categorise all the opposing views as ‘leftie’.
3) Said something offensive? Rather than apologise, attack those who call you out - see article 2.
4) Been caught out? Say you didn’t mean it literally; accuse the opponent of being pedantic.
5) Exhausted all opportunities to indicate a capability of any kind of critical thought? Say that the opponent has lost, and declare victory.

As they say, it’s like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn’t really matter how well you play. In the end, the pigeon will knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around acting like he’s won.


:lol: Excellent. At least you have a sense of humour (I was a bit concerned that all your negativity affected your fun side).

And the pigeon analogy? One of your clauses is kind of correct - in the sense that I repeatedly shit all over your accusations and arguments.

Anyway, fella, I would love for this to go on and on and on (no, really I would), but this is not the Almighty Roger and Superior MP show and gets very boring for others to have to sift through. So you go on and reply with the last word and I shall allow you to (this once).
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby The__KingOfRhye » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:13 pm

musicalprostitute wrote:And I will stand by my attacks on terrorists, homophobes, fox hunters, middle class mummy's boys with leftie traits.


Hmm. I don't really know about how things are elsewhere, but at least in the US, homophobia is a way more common trait of people on the right-wing than the left.

I mean, the Texas Republican Party, for one, pretty much has it written into their platform.
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:25 pm

The__KingOfRhye wrote:
musicalprostitute wrote:And I will stand by my attacks on terrorists, homophobes, fox hunters, middle class mummy's boys with leftie traits.


Hmm. I don't really know about how things are elsewhere, but at least in the US, homophobia is a way more common trait of people on the right-wing than the left.

I mean, the Texas Republican Party, for one, pretty much has it written into their platform.


Same here.

But I was merely defending my position on those I abhor - those scumbags who I have attacked on this site before. And, here, the moderate left is absolutely fine - it is the hard left (those who shout the loudest) who fuck things up for everyone else; for example, in this country the shit American sitcom Friends has been attacked for being homophobic, transphobic, etc. It never ends: they see negativity everywhere and throw out accusations so regularly that most of those in the UK now just laugh at their OTT PC insanity.

BTW, I am with no political party.
 
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Re: In the news today

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Re: In the news today

Postby JLP » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:18 am

Watched a programme off the i played last night called Hull's Headscarf Heroines. About a group of wives and mothers of trawler men from Hull. They got together to force the trawler owners to change the dangerous practices that fishermen endured in the waters around Iceland after two trawlers sank with the loss of 40 lives. Sadly another one sank soon after resulting in another 19 deaths. It took time but change came.

Very powerful women indeed, somewhat scary maybe but they fought for their men. Very proud to say they came from the same city K live in.
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Re: In the news today

Postby JLP » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:43 am

Yikes. It is bad enough our patron saint being half Palestinian and Turkish.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42939192
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Re: In the news today

Postby musicalprostitute » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:11 pm

So the dirty little scumbag Venables has been found guilty of child porn possession once again. This evil, twisted little shit needs to be locked up for good. Or hung. What good is he to anyone?
 
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Re: In the news today

Postby Roger » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:18 pm

JLP wrote:Yikes. It is bad enough our patron saint being half Palestinian and Turkish.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42939192


I don’t think Dave from Barking pays much attention to what them posh fackin’ scientists think, do you?
 
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