In the news today (North American version)

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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby action » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:32 am

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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby JLP » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:40 am

action wrote:lmao! i wouldn't want to feed them, all those who condemn sexism but are absolute and utter assholes to women themselves

my conscience is clear though, and i still would vote for trump



Who are you accusing here? Of course you would vote for Trump. But you can't vote for him as you are not American.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Roger » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:39 pm

Deleted on reflection.

This was a post that made reference to an exposé of other Hollywood celebrities in the light of the Weinstein allegations. I guess it’ll either take off in the mainstream media or it won’t; but I remember around the time of the initial Savile allegations, many presumably innocent people were wrongly implicated, so I decided it’s probably best not to link to non-mainstream articles that name specific people, albeit nebulously.
 
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:06 am

Roger wrote:Deleted on reflection.

This was a post that made reference to an exposé of other Hollywood celebrities in the light of the Weinstein allegations. I guess it’ll either take off in the mainstream media or it won’t; but I remember around the time of the initial Savile allegations, many presumably innocent people were wrongly implicated, so I decided it’s probably best not to link to non-mainstream articles that name specific people, albeit nebulously.


Watched it, before you deleted it. It's true, though.

A lot of people are now coming out with information.

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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Roger » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:14 am

Well Elijah Wood made those claims a few years ago, then backtracked a bit, and hasn’t really had much of a career since then.

The problem is that at the moment, the rumour-mill is in overdrive and every man and his dog is getting accused. I found one list with lots of VERY famous names, all backed up with news articles - but a lot of them were of very different accusations. For example, Christian Bale was on the list essentially because of that time when he shouted at his mother and sister because they had fallen out over his wife. When that sort of thing is on the same list as the likes of Roman Polanski (unquestionably a child rapist), lines start to get a bit blurred and I think it’s best to steer clear until the internet has calmed down a bit.

There’s also a bit of political theatre to it. We know that Trump has sexually assaulted women because there’s audio evidence of him admitting to it; Weinstein is a long-term Democrat donor; and although Bill Clinton has never been charged with any crime, we certainly know he’s more than happy to cheat on his wife. So inevitably politics creeps into it, and that stupid PizzaGate nonsense rears its ugly head, which if anything is horribly demeaning to the actual victims.

Still. Let’s hope this doesn’t turn into an embarrassment for Queen.
 
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:17 am

No one who has claimed abuse that I have watched on interviews, has ever accused a specific person. They just say they were abused or they know of it. No names, said.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Roger » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:20 am

Yeah, but the same names keep cropping up, don’t they?
It gets even more disturbing when you find out about the non-famous people who were ACTUALLY convicted, went on to carry on working with children, and seem to always associate with that one name that just keeps appearing :/
 
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:22 am

I'm not hearing or reading any names in regards to Hollywood pedophelia. I have no idea who they are talking about.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Roger » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:32 am

Probably for the best. It’ll either blow up or it won’t. If it does, so be it. If it doesn’t, it’s best not to be the one who was posting false rumours, hence my reluctance to link to dubious sources.

On the flipside, one major theme that’s emerging is of victims not being taken seriously, and of the industry being complicit in keeping it quiet, so it may well be that if there are other abusers (of course there are), their names will stay confined to the deep web.
 
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:59 am

I doubt it will blow up. These people have too much money and no one is going to be able to prove it unless there is video or photographs and I doubt those would survive after any allegations were put forth against them. Since they are in the film industry, anything of that sort would have been done by them and unseen by anyone else, most likely. Not unless it was another pedophile in the same industry who would also stand to be prosecuted or at least interrogated for it and they'd keep their mouths shut under all circumstances. It would be strictly one's word against another. Too bad Corey Feldman believes that's the reason for Corey Haim's suicide. But I can believe it.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Roger » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:02 am

Well, Evan Rachel Wood has just named the person whose name keeps cropping up...
 
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:24 am

Ok... I'm busy. No time to look at that stuff right now.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby JLP » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:12 am

When I was much younger, there were always stories, without of course, about casting couches. Basically people slept with powerful Hollywood people to get roles. Hopefully this scandal will put an end to that for good.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby JLP » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:13 am

When I was much younger, there were always stories, without of course names being mentioned, about casting couches. Basically people slept with powerful Hollywood people to get roles. Hopefully this scandal will put an end to that for good.
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