In the news today (North American version)

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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Kes » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:11 pm

Freeyyaa wrote:But what do we have to do with it?


The ordinary people of Russia? Not much.

The cyber-intelligence section of the KGB, maybe. The CIA seem to think about 250,000 spambots, generated somewhere in your country, made a couple of million posts on social media, that may well have had "an effect" on the outcome of the US Presidential election.

I guess the question that needs to be asked, is why would Vladimir Putin sooner do business with Donald Trump, than Hilary Clinton. Find an answer to that one, and you have a possible motive as to whether there's any truth in it.

It's not something anyone has really had to deal with before, but it's sheer feasibility, is quite scary to the principle of democracy, and how someone with an agenda, "could" hold a level of external influence over it, if they wanted to.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby CNB » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:37 pm

Trump must owe billions to Putin and the other bag man oligarchs who followed him around on his campaign trail in 2016 and parked their planes near his in the same airports!
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:20 am

FINALLY!!!

“Government’s conduct is outrageous,” federal judge tells @USAO_NV before dismissing Bundy Ranch case, and telling Cliven, Ammon, and Ryan they’re free to go!"

Nevada judge dismisses case against Cliven Bundy and sons, says government cannot retry them.

http://beta.latimes.com/nation/la-na-bu ... story.html
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby CNB » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:18 am

Was this a judge appointed by Trump?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... nd/360587/?
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:23 am

CNB wrote:Was this a judge appointed by Trump?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... nd/360587/?


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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:10 pm

Kes wrote:
Freeyyaa wrote:And why did you elected them?


Being from Britain, MP probably had about the same level of influence at getting Trump into power, as you people living in Russia might have had... err, OK, maybe a little less then!


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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Kes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:51 pm

Can't beat a good conspiracy theory, can you?

And the KGB going on Facebook and firing up a few million 16-20 year old disillusioned kids, is a fucking good conspiracy theory. Hilary Clinton is an evil fire breathing dragon that eats babies! Almost works for me!
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby musicalprostitute » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:23 pm

Kes wrote:Can't beat a good conspiracy theory, can you?

And the KGB going on Facebook and firing up a few million 16-20 year old disillusioned kids, is a fucking good conspiracy theory. Hilary Clinton is an evil fire breathing dragon that eats babies! Almost works for me!


I know; one has to laugh at the ridiculousness of it all...

...nearly as laughable as some of Trump's tweets. Maybe not.
 
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Freeyyaa » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:08 pm

And who is to blame for this state of affairs?
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Kes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:29 pm

The human race.

...for diving into information technology the way it has, without taking into account the implications of doing so.

We've created all these social media platforms that terrorists and antagonists can hide in, communicate with each other, and arrange anti-social activity within, and there isn't much we can do to stop it.

Look at the biggest terrorist act ever. Carried out with a handful of people armed with craft knives. They didn't even need any proper weapons, they just used stuff that was already there, ie society's hardware against itself.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby JLP » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:38 pm

What is really worrying is that the masses meekly swallow the brown stuff they read online. I really doubt that ten years ago, Trump would have got anywhere near the White House.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Kes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:45 pm

What I find worrying is that the media that Trump consistently disses as "fake news", is largely headed up by Fox, a company run and owned by Murdoch, who I think is actually a Trump supporter.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby JLP » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:07 pm

Don't know if this was just a Yorkshire phrase but, as a kid, if I asked my mum what was for tea, one of her replies was shit with sugar on. Now people are fed shit 24 hours a day. Maybe the sugar it is coated with is the cause of the obesity crisis we face.
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Kes wrote:Can't beat a good conspiracy theory, can you?

And the KGB going on Facebook and firing up a few million 16-20 year old disillusioned kids, is a fucking good conspiracy theory. Hilary Clinton is an evil fire breathing dragon that eats babies! Almost works for me!
Where on earth did you ever hear that the KGB was on FB recruiting people? That's a new one if I ever heard it. :lol:
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Re: In the news today (North American version)

Postby Kes » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:06 pm

Innuendoes wrote:
Kes wrote:Can't beat a good conspiracy theory, can you?

And the KGB going on Facebook and firing up a few million 16-20 year old disillusioned kids, is a fucking good conspiracy theory. Hilary Clinton is an evil fire breathing dragon that eats babies! Almost works for me!


Where on earth did you ever hear that the KGB was on FB recruiting people? That's a new one if I ever heard it. :lol:


Who said ANYTHING about "recruiting" people?

Seriously, I'd like to know.

The urban dictionary defines the phrase "to fire someone up", as to motivate them to do something that they otherwise might not do, in this case, if you'd been following what has been said, to go out and vote against the "dragon lady Clinton who for the sake of the discussion, might eat babies".
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