Who are you?

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Who are you?

Postby Delilah » Thu May 13, 2010 6:50 pm

These are the thoughts that I torture myself with. You'd think I'd have something better to do, really.

Continuity and identity. Am I the same person that I was when I was 15? Am I the same person from minute to minute? If I sustained brain damage and lost all of my memories but yet retained all my abilities to think and reason, would that mean that I died and a new person was born in this body? Is consciousness an illusion? Is there any such thing as "me", or does the continuity of my memories simply make it seem that way? If we had the technology to download our brains into mechanical brains of robots and this was done to me, which one would be me afterwards? Both? Neither? Would I have become identical twins? Would I become two separate people the moment that we started forming new memories?

I'm putting this here instead of FC because if this conversation takes off at all, you just know a religious argument will break out by page 2. Not my intention, but you know the potential is there. Just saving the mods some time.
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Elessar » Thu May 13, 2010 6:58 pm

Delilah wrote:Is consciousness an illusion?


The pens in my pocket are twitching, desperate to be let out.
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Sir Knute » Thu May 13, 2010 7:02 pm

Elessar wrote:
Delilah wrote:Is consciousness an illusion?


The pens in my pocket are twitching, desperate to be let out.


Boy I read that so different at first. :oops: :lol:

Perhaps that says something about who I am. :P
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Delilah » Thu May 13, 2010 7:10 pm

Elessar wrote:
Delilah wrote:Is consciousness an illusion?


The pens in my pocket are twitching, desperate to be let out.


Let them out, baby. It is the appropriate time, Mr. Neurology.
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Delilah » Thu May 13, 2010 7:10 pm

Sir Knute wrote:
Elessar wrote:
Delilah wrote:Is consciousness an illusion?


The pens in my pocket are twitching, desperate to be let out.


Boy I read that so different at first. :oops: :lol:

Perhaps that says something about who I am. :P


I always read it that way. Welcome to the perv club. :P
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby WeeMann » Thu May 13, 2010 7:11 pm

Dee, two questions:

What are you smoking?

and

Where can I get some?
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Delilah » Thu May 13, 2010 7:17 pm

WeeMann wrote:Dee, two questions:

What are you smoking?

and

Where can I get some?


No baby, unfortunately this is me stone cold sober. High is a whole 'nother story. :P
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Belle Leisha » Thu May 13, 2010 7:22 pm

*Fights against essay length reply...*

:P

I think "you" changes, depending on what happens to you and your mind. A robot with your memories and knowledge, might be able to do an entirely accurate impression of you, but would never be able to react to those memories and thoughts in the way that only you can do, you being you aged 16 or 60, healthy or having suffered any form of brain damage or other trauma. You can change, that you are you, can't.

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Re: Who are you?

Postby Delilah » Thu May 13, 2010 7:25 pm

Belle Leisha wrote:*Fights against essay length reply...*

:P

I think "you" changes, depending on what happens to you and your mind. A robot with your memories and knowledge, might be able to do an entirely accurate impression of you, but would never be able to react to those memories and thoughts in the way that only you can do, you being you aged 16 or 60, healthy or having suffered any form of brain damage or other trauma. You can change, that you are you, can't.

Imo.


But what if the robot brain works the same way as the human brain? Meaning capable of personality and all the things that my brain is capable of. Literally a synthetic brain, with all the same functionality?

Some people have pondered the idea that one day we will be immortal by uploading ourselves into virtual realities or robots. Would it be us, or would we have created a new person?
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Zappanalé » Thu May 13, 2010 7:30 pm

 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Elessar » Thu May 13, 2010 7:33 pm

If you track back your life, you started off as a little embyro. What would have happened if that embyro had split into two, and you had a twin? Which half would be you?
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Belle Leisha » Thu May 13, 2010 7:42 pm

Delilah wrote:
But what if the robot brain works the same way as the human brain? Meaning capable of personality and all the things that my brain is capable of. Literally a synthetic brain, with all the same functionality?

Some people have pondered the idea that one day we will be immortal by uploading ourselves into virtual realities or robots. Would it be us, or would we have created a new person?


No it wouldn't be you, it would be a computer capable of simulating a human being who was exactly like you. If you're talking about post death, you'd be dead and there'd be a computer who could plausibly pass for you somewhere in the world. While you're alive, it would still be a computer, you might act the same, feel the same, be in every way, exactly the same, but it would still be a computer and you would still be you.

The twins question is very interesting though!
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Cool Cat » Thu May 13, 2010 7:52 pm

The men in the white coats are on their way ;)
Oooh, you're a Cool Cat , Coming on strong with all the chit chat
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby Bad Guy » Thu May 13, 2010 8:46 pm

Cool Cat wrote:The men in the white coats are on their way ;)


Gonna send them my way too? I need them after reading this thread... :shock: :lol:
 
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Re: Who are you?

Postby JLP » Thu May 13, 2010 8:57 pm

She only put it in votw to boost her post count. :lol:
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