Fracking, A Serious Issue

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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby icy » Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:29 pm

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icy wrote:It's a hotly debated issue in the province where I currently live. I'm not for it all, some reasons in this link and taking into account what Elessar posted above.
Fracking ‘almost completely unregulated’ in Alberta, NDP charges
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... e16694749/


The article states,
He said the water loss alone is sobering, with more than 17 million cubic metres used in 2013.

“This is an enormous amount of groundwater. It’s pumped into the ground, it’s polluted by chemicals and it’s never seen again.”

Fracking blasts pressurized water and chemicals into underlying rocks to release trapped natural gas and oil.


The whole western US is under drought. So how in the world can fracking be justified at all?

IMO, the Canadian government is more about $$ than people's well being.
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:45 am

I like the Idle No More movement in Canada but apparently the Canadian government doesn't.

Federal agency seeks to widen surveillance beyond Idle No More to any demonstrators in Canada

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/06/05/federal-agency-seeks-to-widen-surveillance-beyond-idle-no-more-to-any-demonstrators-in-canada/
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Simon » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:57 pm

icy wrote:
1By1 wrote:
icy wrote:It's a hotly debated issue in the province where I currently live. I'm not for it all, some reasons in this link and taking into account what Elessar posted above.
Fracking ‘almost completely unregulated’ in Alberta, NDP charges
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... e16694749/


The article states,
He said the water loss alone is sobering, with more than 17 million cubic metres used in 2013.

“This is an enormous amount of groundwater. It’s pumped into the ground, it’s polluted by chemicals and it’s never seen again.”

Fracking blasts pressurized water and chemicals into underlying rocks to release trapped natural gas and oil.


The whole western US is under drought. So how in the world can fracking be justified at all?

IMO, the Canadian government is more about $$ than people's well being.


Money does make the world go round. Apparently, there is much money in it... In Germany, this discussion goes on for years now. Everybody knows the dangers... People now use the argument that Europe needs to become independent from Russian gas, especially since Fukushima made nuclear power plants so unsexy. Of course those people conveniently forgot about more ecological ways to produce electricity. My guess is that it will happen in Germany, soon. The political party SPD, which is normally very conscious of environmental issues currently supports fossil-fuel power stations in my regions simply because it makes money and doesn't affect jobs.
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Innuendoes » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:16 pm

Oh man, Simon. No! We will destroy the earth, then what?
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Simon » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:49 pm

Hopefully 'they' have made enough money to buy planets we can move to.
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:17 am

Simon wrote:Hopefully 'they' have made enough money to buy planets we can move to.


Uh huh. "They" will move to these planets. We lesser moneyed humin beans will stay behind on ravaged dying Mother Earth.
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:13 am

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/06/fracking-responsible-for-22900-percent-increase-in-oklahoma-earthquakes-since-2008/

Good graphic. Time to get serious about sustainable green energy.

From the article:
A study published in July 4, 2014 issue of Science determined that the surge in earthquake activity in what had been tectonically calm Oklahoma is a direct result of hydrofracking and waste-water injection.

Before 2008, Oklahoma averaged one earthquake with a magnitude of 3.0 or greater every year. To date in 2014, the state has witnessed more than 230 such tectonic events.

One of the study’s co-authors, Cornell University’s Geoffrey Abers, told Nature that “it is really unprecedented to have this many earthquakes over a broad region like this.”
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“Most big sequences of earthquakes that we see are either a main shock and a lot of aftershocks or it might be right at the middle of a volcano in a volcanic system or geothermal system,” he added, “so you might see little swarms but nothing really this distributed and this persistent.”

Abers and his colleagues analyzed the data on rate and volume of liquids being used in waste-water injection sites and compared it to the physical properties of the rock into which it was injected. They found that a small number of waste-water injection sites could be responsible for the large increase in earthquake activity state-wide.

“The risk of humans inducing large earthquakes from even small injection activities is probably high,” Abers said about a 5.7 magnitude earthquake in Prague, Oklahoma in March. Now he has evidence proving that “[s]ome of these earthquakes are as much as 20 miles away from what seems to be the primary wells that are increasing the pressure.”

Researchers believe that the earthquakes are caused by “overpressuring” a fault system. Injecting too much waste-water into the ground causes tectonically stable areas to “slip,” resulting not only in a single earthquake, but a redistribution of pressures along the entire fault system — which is what Abers and his team believe is happening Oklahoma.

“I think this rate of earthquake increase in the midcontinent is really extraordinary and is continuing, but this isn’t the last word on this in any means,” Abers said.
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:34 am

I know when I moved from Illinois to Tulsa, Oklahoma I was so relieved because I was living on the New Madrid fault line - the earthquake fault line that caused the Mississippi River to run backwards, in the 1800s and they've been having small earthquakes on that fault line since I was a teen. The thought of another one of those huge quakes that can change the course of a river, kill 1000s if not more, in a couple of moments was always a concern. Now they're having to worry about it in Oklahoma, too. This has got to stop! New Madrid is a natural disaster waiting to happen but the ones in Oklahoma are man made disasters. No telling how bad it can really get there, too.
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Innuendoes » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:40 am

Gas-Charged Earthquakes Linked to Mysterious Louisiana Sinkhole

http://news.yahoo.com/gas-charged-earth ... 37733.html
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:02 am

Innuendoes wrote:Gas-Charged Earthquakes Linked to Mysterious Louisiana Sinkhole

http://news.yahoo.com/gas-charged-earth ... 37733.html


Natural gas, supposedly. Comments for this article are interesting.
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:45 am

http://ecowatch.com/2014/07/08/activists-blockade-chevron-fracking-romania/

Activists Blockade Chevron Fracking Site in Eastern Romania

Go team, go!! :)
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Innuendoes » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:04 am

7 earthquakes in Oklahoma, alone, during the past weekend!

States with fracking see surge in earthquake activity

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/14/a ... d%3D501721
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:53 am

 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby 1By1 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:36 pm

http://grist.org/climate-energy/driller ... port-says/

Drillers illegally using diesel fuel to frack, report says

and the report

http://environmentalintegrity.org/wp-co ... he-Law.pdf
 
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Re: Fracking, A Serous Issue

Postby Simon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:53 pm

Could someone correct the spelling mistake in the title? It affects the chaos of the universe... And drives me nuts :-O
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