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Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:37 am
by AlaRegularis
sebastian wrote:Group A: Russia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Uruguay.
Group B: Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran.
Group C: France, Australia, Peru, Denmark.
Group D: Argentina, Iceland, Croatia, Nigeria.
Group E: Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia.
Group F: Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea.
Group G: Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England.
Group H: Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan.

Group I: Netherlands, Chile, America, Italy.


Well, it's fun we get to play anyway, I guess.... No, I'm exaggerating. We have every chance to advance from this Group even if it will be difficult. Fermany is a definite loss, no question there, but I Think we could beat both Mexico and South Korea. Even with a draw against Mexico I Think we could still advance. There are no easy Groups in this WC. Except maybe for Russias Group, but who has the cash to get a group like that?

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:58 pm
by sebastian
On the contrary, I'd say groups D and F are the only tricky ones. B and C are quite a walk in the park for the UEFA teams, and the rest have one or two strong teams and that's it.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:12 pm
by Cool Cat
The World Cup has a funny way of throwing up unexpected results, and there's always a shock for a so called big footballing nation, who had money on Cameroon beating Argentina in 1990? or Ireland to beat Italy in 1994? although both those losing countries made it to the final those years(but both lost) and there's been lots of other surprises down the years, and i dare say more to come in Russia. Lets just hope for a good finals, and hope they're not 'dogged ' by fan violence or drug cheats.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:25 pm
by Roger
The hosts are always in Pot 1. That means there’s no other ‘Pot 1’ team in Russia’s group.
They’ve still done quite well with the other 3 teams, but they were always going to get a favourable draw, with no fixing required. The same will happen to Qatar in 2022, and the same happened to both Japan and South Korea in 2002 and South Africa in 2010 (still wasn’t enough for them to get through though).

Suarez and Salah will tear Russia apart anyway.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:00 pm
by sebastian
Time to nitpick:

1930: Hosts were in Group 3
1954: Group 4
1958: Group 3
1962: Group 2
1982: Group 5
1986: Group 2 (since then called Group B instead)
1998: Group C
2002: Groups D and H (two hosts, neither was in Group A)

Counting 2018, there have been 19 world cups with a group phase, out of which eight (42.10%) did not feature the hosts in the first group (1 or A, depending).

Same for the hosts playing the opening match - it's common but not exclusive: having an opening match to begin with has only been a tradition since 1966, meaning 2018 will mark the fourteenth time it happens. Out of those fourteen opening games, eight (57.14%) did not feature the hosts, but the holders instead.

Edit: I apologise... you said 'Pot 1' not 'Group 1'. Regarding 'Pot 1' you're absolutely right.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:10 pm
by Roger
sebastian wrote:Edit: I apologise... you said 'Pot 1' not 'Group 1'. Regarding 'Pot 1' you're absolutely right.


:P

What I didn’t realise is that this is the first tournament in which all four pots are seeded. Prior to 2018, only Pot 1 was seeded, and the others were geographical.