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Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:37 am
by AlaRegularis
sebastian wrote:Group A: Russia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Uruguay.
Group B: Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran.
Group C: France, Australia, Peru, Denmark.
Group D: Argentina, Iceland, Croatia, Nigeria.
Group E: Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia.
Group F: Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea.
Group G: Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England.
Group H: Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan.

Group I: Netherlands, Chile, America, Italy.


Well, it's fun we get to play anyway, I guess.... No, I'm exaggerating. We have every chance to advance from this Group even if it will be difficult. Fermany is a definite loss, no question there, but I Think we could beat both Mexico and South Korea. Even with a draw against Mexico I Think we could still advance. There are no easy Groups in this WC. Except maybe for Russias Group, but who has the cash to get a group like that?

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:58 pm
by sebastian
On the contrary, I'd say groups D and F are the only tricky ones. B and C are quite a walk in the park for the UEFA teams, and the rest have one or two strong teams and that's it.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:12 pm
by Cool Cat
The World Cup has a funny way of throwing up unexpected results, and there's always a shock for a so called big footballing nation, who had money on Cameroon beating Argentina in 1990? or Ireland to beat Italy in 1994? although both those losing countries made it to the final those years(but both lost) and there's been lots of other surprises down the years, and i dare say more to come in Russia. Lets just hope for a good finals, and hope they're not 'dogged ' by fan violence or drug cheats.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:25 pm
by Roger
The hosts are always in Pot 1. That means there’s no other ‘Pot 1’ team in Russia’s group.
They’ve still done quite well with the other 3 teams, but they were always going to get a favourable draw, with no fixing required. The same will happen to Qatar in 2022, and the same happened to both Japan and South Korea in 2002 and South Africa in 2010 (still wasn’t enough for them to get through though).

Suarez and Salah will tear Russia apart anyway.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:00 pm
by sebastian
Time to nitpick:

1930: Hosts were in Group 3
1954: Group 4
1958: Group 3
1962: Group 2
1982: Group 5
1986: Group 2 (since then called Group B instead)
1998: Group C
2002: Groups D and H (two hosts, neither was in Group A)

Counting 2018, there have been 19 world cups with a group phase, out of which eight (42.10%) did not feature the hosts in the first group (1 or A, depending).

Same for the hosts playing the opening match - it's common but not exclusive: having an opening match to begin with has only been a tradition since 1966, meaning 2018 will mark the fourteenth time it happens. Out of those fourteen opening games, eight (57.14%) did not feature the hosts, but the holders instead.

Edit: I apologise... you said 'Pot 1' not 'Group 1'. Regarding 'Pot 1' you're absolutely right.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:10 pm
by Roger
sebastian wrote:Edit: I apologise... you said 'Pot 1' not 'Group 1'. Regarding 'Pot 1' you're absolutely right.


:P

What I didn’t realise is that this is the first tournament in which all four pots are seeded. Prior to 2018, only Pot 1 was seeded, and the others were geographical.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:50 am
by AlaRegularis
Man, I can't wait for this to get started!

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:58 pm
by Elessar
If they turn up, France could win it. They look VERY strong - a squad of those who missed out could probably win it!

As long as Spain get spanked I don’t really care who wins. Hopefully there’ll be lots of goals and some great matches.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:43 pm
by AlaRegularis
Elessar wrote:If they turn up, France could win it. They look VERY strong - a squad of those who missed out could probably win it!

As long as Spain get spanked I don’t really care who wins. Hopefully there’ll be lots of goals and some great matches.


I agree, they have good shot. Most experts here in Sweden seem to have them battling it out with Brazil, Germany, Argentina and Spain for the gold.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:41 pm
by Elessar
AlaRegularis wrote:
Elessar wrote:If they turn up, France could win it. They look VERY strong - a squad of those who missed out could probably win it!

As long as Spain get spanked I don’t really care who wins. Hopefully there’ll be lots of goals and some great matches.


I agree, they have good shot. Most experts here in Sweden seem to have them battling it out with Brazil, Germany, Argentina and Spain for the gold.


Seems reasonable. Maybe Portugal, Belgium and Colombia as outsiders.

I can’t bear the thought of Ramos lifting the World Cup again.

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:42 am
by sebastian
Elessar wrote:I can’t bear the thought of Ramos lifting the World Cup again.


Wasn't Casillas the captain when they won the World Cup? I mean, you may just mean lifting it when they pass it around... but the big moment is when the captain kisses and lifts the trophy, isn't it? And in that sense, Ramos has only done it with Real Madrid, but not as world champion (with a national squad).

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:19 am
by Elessar
sebastian wrote:
Elessar wrote:I can’t bear the thought of Ramos lifting the World Cup again.


Wasn't Casillas the captain when they won the World Cup? I mean, you may just mean lifting it when they pass it around... but the big moment is when the captain kisses and lifts the trophy, isn't it? And in that sense, Ramos has only done it with Real Madrid, but not as world champion (with a national squad).


I’m more than happy for it to stay that way!

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:55 pm
by The__KingOfRhye
I thought this was going to be a thread about an international spelling bee....:P

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:39 pm
by Elessar
The__KingOfRhye wrote:I thought this was going to be a thread about an international spelling bee....:P


He's a Utd fan, cut him some slack :P

Re: Word Cup - Russia 2018

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:59 pm
by sebastian
2026 will be in Canada, Mexico and America. I wonder how Oompa Loompa shall deal with people crossing over for the games...