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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Elessar » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:18 am

The Milkman wrote:
icy wrote:Usually I put my own interpretations with music. David Bowie rarely failed to make me ponder about so much, and I find the discussion between Elessar and Tarkus so interesting. :wow:



Agree, that's some pretty good shit and made me put on Station To Station. I have the 1999 remaster so I don't have the bonus track. :(


It's just a live version of Word On A Wing and Stay.
 
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby The Milkman » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:32 pm

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Agree, that's some pretty good shit and made me put on Station To Station. I have the 1999 remaster so I don't have the bonus track. :(


It's just a live version of Word On A Wing and Stay.


Thanks, not a fan of live tracks so I'm not disappointed now.
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby action » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:19 pm

this album is such a blunder

there is nothing artistic about celebrating death. i'm sure bowie himself is nodding in agreement from heaven (or wherever his soul is now) and is already dreading his last album.

the album is depressing whereas rock music should always be uplifting and strong.

innuendo and MIH were like this too, and i cant say it was for the better. especially innuendo feels too plomp and depressing.
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Sir Didymus » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:35 pm

action wrote:this album is such a blunder

there is nothing artistic about celebrating death. i'm sure bowie himself is nodding in agreement from heaven (or wherever his soul is now) and is already dreading his last album.

the album is depressing whereas rock music should always be uplifting and strong.

innuendo and MIH were like this too, and i cant say it was for the better. especially innuendo feels too plomp and depressing.


You're a dick, Action. A moronic one at that. Sorry not all rock music fits your blinkered view.
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby action » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:52 pm

people need to LIVE more in stead of sobbing and indulging in depressing music. there's a whole world out there. some of it is fun, some not so much.

one day we will die, and our chance to appreciate great things will pass. on to the next person.

life's too short. too many people dying. is it ok to live a bit? or... god forbid, to have some fun?
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Elessar » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:28 pm

I truly hope the existence of Blackstar doesn't affect your ability to do just that.
 
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Sir Didymus » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:25 pm

action wrote:people need to LIVE more in stead of sobbing and indulging in depressing music. there's a whole world out there. some of it is fun, some not so much.

one day we will die, and our chance to appreciate great things will pass. on to the next person.

life's too short. too many people dying. is it ok to live a bit? or... god forbid, to have some fun?


To steal a quote from Russell T Davis here, "Pain and loss, they define us as much as happiness or love."

You can't have one without the other. Unless you're on heavy medication.
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Elessar » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:40 pm

Elessar wrote:Alright, we've done the rank-the-albums game, let's do the rank-the-songs game now. Top 20 songs. Go.

1. Cygnet Committee
2. Slip Away
3. Life On Mars?
4. Five Years
5. Changes
6. Space Oddity
7. Rock & Roll Suicide
8. Word On A Wing
9. Letter To Hermione
10. Lady Grinning Soul
11. Lazarus
12. "Heroes"
13. Starman
14. Ziggy Stardust
15. Dollar Days
16. Time
17. Sound And Vision
18. Young Americans
19. All The Madmen
20. Seven Years In Tibet


This has to be corrected! I think Wild Is The Wind has not only gatecrashed the top 20 but it's currently sitting pretty at #1!
 
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Chickenfeed Babe » Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:09 pm

Album rankings:

*****
1. Hunky Dory
2. Diamond Dogs
3. Ziggy Stardust
4. Station To Station
5. "Heroes"

****
6. Low
7. The Man Who Sold The World
8. Aladdin Sane
9. Heathen
10. Earthling
11. Blackstar
12. The Next Day
13. Reality
14. Scary Monsters
15. Lodger
16. Young Americans

***
17. Pin Ups
18. David Bowie (1969)
19. hours...
20. Buddha Of Suburbia
21. Black Tie White Noise
22. Outside
23. Tin Machine
24. Tin Machine II
25. Let's Dance

**
26. David Bowie (1967)
27. Tonight

*
28. Never Let Me Down


Top 20 songs:

1. Quicksand
2. Sweet Thing/ Candidate
3. Moonage Daydream
4. The Bewlay Brothers
5. Memory Of A Free Festval (Single Version)
6. "Heroes"
7. Life On Mars?
8. Five Years
9. Stay
10. Fascination
11. Wild Is The Wind
12. Big Brother
13. Look Back In Anger
14. Ashes To Ashes
15. Slip Away
16. Sons Of The Silent Age
17. Cracked Actor
18. The Width Of A Circle
19. Where Are We Now?
20. Seven Years In Tibet
 
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby YAFF » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:01 pm

action wrote:this album is such a blunder

there is nothing artistic about celebrating death. i'm sure bowie himself is nodding in agreement from heaven (or wherever his soul is now) and is already dreading his last album.

the album is depressing whereas rock music should always be uplifting and strong.

innuendo and MIH were like this too, and i cant say it was for the better. especially innuendo feels too plomp and depressing.


Hope you're taking the piss here. Blackstar is pure genius. It isn't really rock music btw. "Art Rock" perhaps.

It was not meant to be his last album though so people have read too much into the lyrics. He wrote/demoed 5 more songs for another album before he died. The death-fixated lyrics in Blackstar likely refer to the Lazarus musical. Still I'm sure Bowie did consider it having another meaning (his own fate)..
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby action » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:12 pm

YAFF wrote:
action wrote:this album is such a blunder

there is nothing artistic about celebrating death. i'm sure bowie himself is nodding in agreement from heaven (or wherever his soul is now) and is already dreading his last album.

the album is depressing whereas rock music should always be uplifting and strong.

innuendo and MIH were like this too, and i cant say it was for the better. especially innuendo feels too plomp and depressing.


Hope you're taking the piss here. Blackstar is pure genius. It isn't really rock music btw. "Art Rock" perhaps.

It was not meant to be his last album though so people have read too much into the lyrics. He wrote/demoed 5 more songs for another album before he died. The death-fixated lyrics in Blackstar likely refer to the Lazarus musical. Still I'm sure Bowie did consider it having another meaning (his own fate)..


not really interested in how it was meant

"everybody knows me now" seems pretty obvious.

it was "not cool". depressing, life depleting. doesnt make me feel more of a man as i am.

i stand by the fact that bowie, if his spirit lives on (and i do believe so), is already dreading this album and surely wants to be remembered by his more rocking work (though i dont like that either, but you get my frift)
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby Sir Didymus » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:41 pm

action wrote:
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action wrote:this album is such a blunder

there is nothing artistic about celebrating death. i'm sure bowie himself is nodding in agreement from heaven (or wherever his soul is now) and is already dreading his last album.

the album is depressing whereas rock music should always be uplifting and strong.

innuendo and MIH were like this too, and i cant say it was for the better. especially innuendo feels too plomp and depressing.


Hope you're taking the piss here. Blackstar is pure genius. It isn't really rock music btw. "Art Rock" perhaps.

It was not meant to be his last album though so people have read too much into the lyrics. He wrote/demoed 5 more songs for another album before he died. The death-fixated lyrics in Blackstar likely refer to the Lazarus musical. Still I'm sure Bowie did consider it having another meaning (his own fate)..


not really interested in how it was meant

"everybody knows me now" seems pretty obvious.

it was "not cool". depressing, life depleting. doesnt make me feel more of a man as i am.

i stand by the fact that bowie, if his spirit lives on (and i do believe so), is already dreading this album and surely wants to be remembered by his more rocking work (though i dont like that either, but you get my frift)


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Re: db Blackstar

Postby FreddiesShootingStar » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:40 am

David Bowie’s “Sue (or in a Season of Crime)” won Best Arrangement at the Grammy's....
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Re: db Blackstar

Postby icy » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:36 am

FreddiesShootingStar wrote:David Bowie’s “Sue (or in a Season of Crime)” won Best Arrangement at the Grammy's....

I missed that, how? I'm glad he won.
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Or how I'll be saved
I'm no coward
But I'm not that brave
Rags are blowing
Rain's getting near
I'm done with running
And it's getting dark in here~

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Re: db Blackstar

Postby FreddiesShootingStar » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:44 am

icy wrote:
FreddiesShootingStar wrote:David Bowie’s “Sue (or in a Season of Crime)” won Best Arrangement at the Grammy's....

I missed that, how? I'm glad he won.


It wasn't televised....
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