Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby slightlymad1970 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:39 am

Echoplex wrote:Are we even sure that these figures are accurate, as has been mentioned all the selfy stick footage doesn't appear to show any gaps, big or small in the audience.

All the figures I am posting are from Billboard magazine, they publish concert attendances and revenue on a weekly basis in a section called Boxscore. I don't think we will get all the shows from this tour but I will post what they publish :-D
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby BitterTears » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:51 am

But are they accurate?
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby The Milkman » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:59 am

I would think if they are talking about attendance it would be accurate because they scan the tickets when you enter the building. That doesn't mean all the ones bought up by third parties were used so sales could be greater than attendance.
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby Echoplex » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:08 pm

So sales could be higher than attendance. I think the fact that they toured a second time , quite soon after the last time, and in some cases played bigger venues would indicate that in general ticket sales are quite buoyant.

The 1980's figures are interesting. As is well documented through the 70's they were growing as a touring band, with each year adding bigger venues. There can be little doubt that 78,79 and 80 were the biggest years in the US. But I am surprised just how quickly ticket sales dropped in 82 even with Billy Squire. It points to them in no way being an album act, as if they were they would have had a strong enough fan base to fill most of those venues. It appears the US public were buying tickets on the back of single releases and not much more. On hearing Body Language on the radio how many people would rush out to buy it and a couple of concert tickets compared to two years before when Bites The Dust and Crazy Little Thing Called Love were Queen's calling card?
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby QueenUSA » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:39 pm

Body Language was actually one of their highest charting singles for the band in th U.S..
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby musicalprostitute » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:57 pm

Echoplex wrote:So sales could be higher than attendance. I think the fact that they toured a second time , quite soon after the last time, and in some cases played bigger venues would indicate that in general ticket sales are quite buoyant.

The 1980's figures are interesting. As is well documented through the 70's they were growing as a touring band, with each year adding bigger venues. There can be little doubt that 78,79 and 80 were the biggest years in the US. But I am surprised just how quickly ticket sales dropped in 82 even with Billy Squire. It points to them in no way being an album act, as if they were they would have had a strong enough fan base to fill most of those venues. It appears the US public were buying tickets on the back of single releases and not much more. On hearing Body Language on the radio how many people would rush out to buy it and a couple of concert tickets compared to two years before when Bites The Dust and Crazy Little Thing Called Love were Queen's calling card?


They could still claim to be an album band; it's just the American fan base was not as loyal. The rest of the world always seemed to have understood Queen more than The USA; I mean, IWTBF was banned on MTV as they felt American audiences just weren't ready for a rock band in drag - the rest of us saw it for what it was: a bit of fun.

I know there are big sales to be had in the USA, but I have never understood Brian and Roger's seemingly endless obsession with selling well over there. The rest of the world is large enough.
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby The Milkman » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:20 pm

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I know there are big sales to be had in the USA, but I have never understood Brian and Roger's seemingly endless obsession with selling well over there. The rest of the world is large enough.



I think that's pretty much the norm.
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby Echoplex » Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:31 pm

The Milkman wrote:
musicalprostitute wrote:
I know there are big sales to be had in the USA, but I have never understood Brian and Roger's seemingly endless obsession with selling well over there. The rest of the world is large enough.



I think that's pretty much the norm.



I think it was Freddie more than Brian and Roger who was driven by sales in the US. They had planned to tour The Works in the States but apparently it was Freddie who didn't want to play less and possibly smaller venues.

Success in the North American market in the 60's 70's and 80's was a sign of major success remember Queen came out of the back ground of Yhe Beatles, Stones, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd all being huge in album sales and ticket sales. Overall in the states Queen fell behind all of them.

Where Queen scored really well was world wide and still do. They weren't the first but they opened up the South American market with the success and scale of the 1981 shows.

While the US tour this year didn't sell out, it wasn't a failure by any means, but again Euprope and UK sales have exceeded anything in the states.

I'm sure Brian and Roger are very aware that their golden years in the states were a very short period in relation to the success they had in the rest of the world and although they've recovered strongly in over the last two tours they're not and probably never will be at 1979/1980 levels all though I'm sure they'd both love to be.
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby AngelR » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:45 pm

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Queen + Adam Lambert Rogers Arena Vancouver, British Columbia July 2, 2017 $1,114,680 12,363 /
12,363 1 / 1 $146.51, $38.17 Live Nation
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby musicalprostitute » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:54 am

The Milkman wrote:
musicalprostitute wrote:
I know there are big sales to be had in the USA, but I have never understood Brian and Roger's seemingly endless obsession with selling well over there. The rest of the world is large enough.



I think that's pretty much the norm.


Oh, I understand completely why - in terms of the sales to be had - most groups/singers feel the need to break The States, but these two old boys have done their bit now - just let it go (they have sold enough).
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby AngelR » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:22 am

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(they have sold enough).
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Yes. They made it to number 14 at Top 20 Global Concert Tours after the USA part of the tour - not too bad.

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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby QueenUSA » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:28 pm

AngelR wrote:
musicalprostitute wrote:
(they have sold enough).


Yes. They made it to number 14 at Top 20 Global Concert Tours after the USA part of the tour - not too bad.

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That's a decent enough of a showing, I guess.
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby pi3rre » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:12 pm

Danne wrote:
Jimi wrote:Europe will be / is stronger


I wonder how the gig in Stockholm will turn out this time. Last time they were here, with the first Paul Rodgers tour, the Globe Arena was sort of half full - the notable exception to the rule on that tour, and probably the reason they didn't come back. Until now. I wonder what turned them around this time.


I can't believe how Queen could come back after Live Nations behavior for QAL regards Sweden
2014 LN said no to Queen cos they would crashed with Tribute arena show Champions Of Rock..
But after Sweden Rock Festival 2016 QAL succes they could not say no again with the same problem..Champions of Rock 12 dates from north to south arena gigs in the same time October/November & the last show 3 days until QAL gig in Stockholm!! No Promotions at all on QAL but plenty on CoR!! cos they earn better per ticket for tribute show!!!!
Well The QAL gig now sold around 12k but could had sold 20 with good PR!!
I hope they will make PR for this gig the next month..
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby slightlymad1970 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:24 am

Hi all, just added 3 new shows to the first page, as these figures come in it seems the tour was well attended. I make this statement based on some other figures being published for other artist, some tours are doing exceptional business in the states such as U2, Ed Sheeran and Lady GaGa for example, but a lot of major artists aren't doing so well in numerous shows, examples below of some poor attendances for some major US Tours this year (it should be noted that these artists did do well in other shows). Even the current Metallica Stadium Tour isn't selling out!. So in context of the current touring climate in America I think the Q+AL tour did very well.

Santana
Phoenix, Ariz.
June 30, 2017
9,921 / 18,893

Train
Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, N.Y.
June 18, 2017
10,311 / 24,902

Boston, Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
Starplex Pavilion, Dallas, Texas
June 30, 2017
9,375 / 19,809

Styx & REO Speedwagon, Don Felder
Sunlight Supply Amphitheater, Ridgefield, Wash.
June 20, 2017
4,950 / 17,535

Def Leppard, Poison, Tesla
Mattress Firm Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, Calif.
June 16, 2017
13,596 / 19,244

Bryan Adams
PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel, N.J.
June 16, 2017
6,215 / 16,627

Muse, Thirty Seconds to Mars,
Pvris Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre Maryland Heights, Mo.
June 13, 2017
10,173 / 19,000

Iron Maiden, Ghost
Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre Tinley Park, Ill.
June 15, 2017
14,015 / 27,853
 
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Re: Q+AL 2017 Billboard Boxscore

Postby slightlymad1970 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:32 pm

Just added the box-office for the SOLD OUT Houston show. Interestingly the capacity is set at 9,260 perhaps because of the stage set up, the figure is lower than recent shows at the same venue by Neil Diamond (10,303), Janet Jackson (11,872) and Lionel Richie (10,952).
 
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