New Queen + AL album?

[Kes]

I'd just like to interject, and say that most of the best tracks Roger wrote for TCR, actually surfaced as "his own" versions on Fun On Earth, and arguably, they're just as good, if not better, than the Q+PR versions.

As others have said, Paul Rodgers at least had a bit of pedigree in the genre that Queen came from. AL's solo stuff is a bit more "mongrel" than "pedigree", unfortunately.

Good as though Brian, Roger and John were, it was Freddie that made the difference between a very good band, and being a truly great one. Freddie was a lot more than just a "singer" though, he was a brilliant writer, and could play the piano a little bit, too. The biggest strength QAL actually have, is the legacy that Freddie, Brian, Roger and John made together, and I'm about 90% sure you can't really add to that with totally "new" product NOT made by those four. That aspect was certainly painfully discovered the last time around anyway.

Have QAL actually ever played anything off TCR, just for the record?

I think they look at TCR now the way they look at their solo albums, as outside the Queen oeuvre. I know I do, though I've only heard it the once (same goes for Rog and Bri's last 2 solo efforts) it just didn't sit right musically as "Queen" anything for me. And I don't care for PR's 'pedigree', the songs were lousy and I find his own meat and two veg Raaaawk to be dull as crap, woh woh yeah. *

Same will surely go for anything QAL. Though maybe they just want something new for live, or to throw AL a bone.

I probably won't buy it. If it's a ballad it'll be saccharine with an overdone vocal. If it's rock, well AL can't sing rock without sounding like the stage musical which will put me right off. AL sings in a certain style and it's a deal breaker for me.

And yet I'm going to see them live in December. (Smashes head against the wall).

*edit, apart from the Fire and Water album and a few other Free songs which are utterly sublime.

[Kes]

Glad you corrected that.

There's at least a dozen songs that the bloke has sung on, that are rock classics!

I never said he was "in the same league" as Freddie, but he's only a couple of tables behind.

@ Kes, Q+AL have never performed anything by Q+PR.

[Kes]

Exactly my point.

QAL rely on the stuff that was made popular with Freddie, the same way Q+PR did, so what chance does any studio stuff Brian and Roger do with AL stand of having any longevity? I'd have said about as close to fuck all as it's possible to get.

I recall an interview with Roger at the time of the Cosmos Rocks tour when he justified touring based on the fact that they would be 'living breathing entity' with new material to play, and that he totally would not want to be seen as 'his own tribute' act flogging a show consisting purely of past glories songwise. He's clearly had a rethink on that one....

And yet I'm going to see them live in December. (Smashes head against the wall).

You'll find that QAL live is a ton better than the recordings would have you believe. Even the Rock songs.
Having said that, the bit in Bo Rhap where Freddie sings presents a very stark comparison. I did feel a bit sorry for Adam at that point.

Exactly my point.

QAL rely on the stuff that was made popular with Freddie, the same way Q+PR did, so what chance does any studio stuff Brian and Roger do with AL stand of having any longevity? I'd have said about as close to fuck all as it's possible to get.

Mm, but to be fair the first QPR tour Brian and Roger had the chance to play a whole bunch of new stuff as they delved into the PR catalog. And for the second tour they were able to add some new compositions. And even a Hendrix cover. They had a lot to keep their interest in a live setting.
After a number of years with Adam now, I think it would be nice to have some new stuff to hear on tour even if the end of the tour means those songs will never be heard again. Compared to "Real Queen" that's not a failure, it's just different.
As for longevity, they managed to bring both Fred and Michael Jackson back from the dead and that's been forgotten as quickly as it arrived. I know I still play Let Me In Your Heart Again almost daily, but it's not like it's on radio and in shops.

I recall an interview with Roger at the time of the Cosmos Rocks tour when he justified touring based on the fact that they would be 'living breathing entity' with new material to play, and that he totally would not want to be seen as 'his own tribute' act flogging a show consisting purely of past glories songwise. He's clearly had a rethink on that one....

Hmm. I wonder what changed.
Well, two AL solo songs ended up added to the set list in the two recent tours, maybe testing the waters by doing that?When I was thinking/hoping for something new added to the set list, it was Queen songs, not ALs solo songs.

I recall an interview with Roger at the time of the Cosmos Rocks tour when he justified touring based on the fact that they would be 'living breathing entity' with new material to play, and that he totally would not want to be seen as 'his own tribute' act flogging a show consisting purely of past glories songwise. He's clearly had a rethink on that one....

Hmm. I wonder what changed.

TCR not doing that well changed that idea, I'd guess.

Anyway, it probably wouldn't surprise anyone to hear me say this, but I'm all for the idea of a QAL album. Not cus I'm saying it would necessarily do any better than TCR....I'd just really like to hear it.

*edit, apart from the Fire and Water album and a few other Free songs which are utterly sublime.

IMO there haven't many debut albums better than Bad Company's.

We don’t need new Q+AL songs to be played on the tours and we certainly don’t need abominations like Two fucking Fux... we just need some deeper cuts like Spread Your Wings and It’s Late... oh, hang on a minute...

I recall an interview with Roger at the time of the Cosmos Rocks tour when he justified touring based on the fact that they would be 'living breathing entity' with new material to play, and that he totally would not want to be seen as 'his own tribute' act flogging a show consisting purely of past glories songwise. He's clearly had a rethink on that one....

Hmm. I wonder what changed.

TCR not doing that well changed that idea, I'd guess.

Anyway, it probably wouldn't surprise anyone to hear me say this, but I'm all for the idea of a QAL album. Not cus I'm saying it would necessarily do any better than TCR....I'd just really like to hear it.

If Brian and Roger wanted to do music with Adam, maybe a one off single instead of a full album under the Q+AL banner I would find more appealing.
ALs strong point isn't his songwriting, IMO.
And what I think about what about ALs solo career? Simply because he shouldn't rely on Brian and Roger so much...and vice versa too.

I for one wouldn't mind an album from this lineup. In my opinion it's a far more vital and entertaining lineup than Queen+PR.