Other Than Live Aid..

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Ya mind offering your thoughts as to why 4664 was almost entirely shut out of the USA as the rest of the world watched? Why Queen & Paul Rodgers single handedly had a comparable audience in the Ukraine to Live Aid? Don't give Live Aid too much credit, if not for the media and all, it'd be forgotten.

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FunnyHowLoveIs wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:18 pm Ya mind offering your thoughts as to why 4664 was almost entirely shut out of the USA as the rest of the world watched? Why Queen & Paul Rodgers single handedly had a comparable audience in the Ukraine to Live Aid? Don't give Live Aid too much credit, if not for the media and all, it'd be forgotten.
Certainly.

Point 1. Because US networks might not have wanted to pay for the broadcast rights?

Point 2. Because quite simply, it didn't. Live Aid was, and still is, estimated to be the largest ever global audience for a music based televised concert. At very best QPR live in Ukraine hit a 20th of that audience.

Point 3. Statistics are only any use if they're accurate. See Biden vs Trump discussion.

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Kes wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:30 pm
FunnyHowLoveIs wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:18 pm Ya mind offering your thoughts as to why 4664 was almost entirely shut out of the USA as the rest of the world watched? Why Queen & Paul Rodgers single handedly had a comparable audience in the Ukraine to Live Aid? Don't give Live Aid too much credit, if not for the media and all, it'd be forgotten.
Certainly.

Point 1. Because US networks might not have wanted to pay for the broadcast rights?

Point 2. Because quite simply, it didn't. Live Aid was, and still is, estimated to be the largest ever global audience for a music based televised concert. At very best QPR live in Ukraine hit a 20th of that audience.

Point 3. Statistics are only any use if they're accurate. See Biden vs Trump discussion.

President Bush single handedly gave Africa 15 Billion US dollars for HIV/AIDS support shortly before 46664 and Comcast/Dish/DirectTV/Verizon probably would've treated it like Live Aid.

Don't forget Woodstock II, be it a ppv, it was massive and online.

Queen & Paul Rodgers were alone, no opening act, 100,000 people in attendance and over 10,000,000 watching online. In perspective, it took dozens of artists on two continents to achieve Live Aid with media. QPR did astoundingly well with little or no USA advertising.

By and large, Biden & Trump discussion is the biggest moving topic here on this board and based in Europe no less.

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Really?

You believe that?

Let's have a look at potential capture. Huge live performances, and demand for them, translates to sales of physical and legal downloadable product. Indirectly, Live Aid probably translated into subsequent sales of Queen albums, in the millions.

If, by any stroke of the imagination, the band's appearance in Ukraine had got anywhere near Live Aid (global audience on the 13th July 1985 of 1.9 billion, not counting subsequent views), and translated into sales of The Cosmos Rocks, then it wouldn't be sat on about 40,000 copies sold globally, would it? Unless the whole world's gone totally immoral and pirate everything everybody's ever made. And frankly, who, with half a f*cking brain would want to pirate TCR, let alone buy it.

As I say, statistics can be fun things, but claiming anything Queen have done since Live even touches the edge of the same barrel is utter madness.

To cap off the point, who would want to pay for your "works of art", when you're so patently keen (on not just yourself, but peddling the concept to others) of freeloading everybody else's?

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Lol @ the suggestion Live in Ukraine had anything like the audience Live Aid had.

Was Live in the Ukraine even on TV anywhere?

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No, Bill is suggesting EVERYBODY in the world, was streaming it on the internet, or watching it on some Long John Silver website, like freeloading people's copyrighted work was actually "normal".

He lives in Cape Cod, apparently, not Cloud f*cking cuckoo land.

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Leigh Burne wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:37 pm Lol @ the suggestion Live in Ukraine had anything like the audience Live Aid had.

Was Live in the Ukraine even on TV anywhere?
Thats the whole point! Live Aid wouldn't have happened in the manner it did if not for the media attention, advertised entirely long ahead of time in every means possible, it was so big, everyone knew about it, old and young, those who barely watched tv knew about it. For Gods sake, hermits knew about Live Aid.

Queen & Paul Rodgers in the Ukraine, I understand as does almost anyone else, is nowhere remotely as big but had it been advertised as was Live Aid? Wanna debate how any other act at the time of Live In Ukraine would have fared with little attention in North America by the press, I honestly don't know about the rest of the world but 10.000,000 viewers during the performance is nothing to sneeze about and there were no other acts. In so many unique ways, Live In Ukraine single handedly, albeit a dwarf in comparison to giant Live Aid is really equal in terms of audience participation.

Kes, if you were any member of Queen saying that about your own release, TCR, I'd say, you feel badly about yourself in and out of Queen, far removed from being unapologetically humble bordering on self destruction eating your own fingers. If album quality were solely based on sales, even I were to have given up long before I pressed record on anything much less release it and I am but one grain of sand on a titan sized beach with stones, boulders and bigger such as Queen on the same property.

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Still doesn't compare.

Just to level the playing field, go on youtube, and compare the number of views of Queen's Live Aid set (just one artist in amongst fifty or sixty on the day), to Q+PR Live in Ukraine, you could probably strike off five or six zeros.

You're trying to make impossible statistics, and failing very badly.

If Live in Ukraine had got the same media attention? How in f*ck's name was it ever going to do that? To watch something, people have normally got to want to watch it.

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Honest question.

Is it easy to type with that straitjacket on? And why does the asylum allow you so much internet access?

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FunnyHowLoveIs wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:49 pmThats the whole point! Live Aid wouldn't have happened in the manner it did if not for the media attention, advertised entirely long ahead of time in every means possible, it was so big, everyone knew about it, old and young, those who barely watched tv knew about it. For Gods sake, hermits knew about Live Aid.
If you’re seriously suggesting Live in the Ukraine might have been as big had they advertised it a bit more, I’ve gotta say - that’s a load of rubbish.

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