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fairydandy wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pm Brian May:

"This means it’s basically for the good of the young, now that we old buggers have been declared of secondary importance ? Wow".

It's funny then how the 'old buggers' were of secondary importance to him during the Brexit debate. It was for the good of the young, or so he and his like kept on saying, now the old ones matter, all of a sudden, because it's affects him. :roll: It's funny how vaccinations were for the good of the badgers, but this action isn't for the good of the over 70's! The man is a hypocrite.

Heaven's above, don't stop the QAL shows, they have to 'Rock!', 'live and dangerous' at all costs. :roll:
Wow, he's nuts. Lost it! :roll:

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Good idea to have more ventilators produced but who the hell will nurse the patients on them? That takes some pretty specialised skills and knowledge.

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fairydandy wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pm Brian May:

"This means it’s basically for the good of the young, now that we old buggers have been declared of secondary importance ? Wow".

It's funny then how the 'old buggers' were of secondary importance to him during the Brexit debate. It was for the good of the young, or so he and his like kept on saying, now the old ones matter, all of a sudden, because it's affects him. :roll: It's funny how vaccinations were for the good of the badgers, but this action isn't for the good of the over 70's! The man is a hypocrite.

Heaven's above, don't stop the QAL shows, they have to 'Rock!', 'live and dangerous' at all costs. :roll:

What the actual hell, Brian? :shock:

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I hope your mother will be ok, Picard.

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WeeMann wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:08 am
lsr wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:24 pm It’s not clear what the UK government’s strategy is, but they clearly do have one, in contrast to most other countries that are simply bringing in blanket measures without any real finesse.

I suspect the plan is to protect the elderly and let the virus sweep through younger populations who will mostly be asymptomatic, and those that do require hospital treatment will be able to get it without generating too much excess pressure (but they will, and some will die). Then as herd immunity builds, social interaction can increase again.
The BBC had a few health experts on one morning this week. They explained that this is exactly the plan. Rather than a sudden explosion in cases which would overwhelm the NHS, they're trying to delay the spread. As such the peak will be lower and more spread out over time. The same number of people will ultimately become infected, but the health service will better be able to cope with the worst cases.

In this respect, the government are doing exactly the right thing, following the guidance of the people who know what they're talking about.
It’s a little bit of a gamble though, and it’s very difficult to sell politically.

But it’s better than what the rest of Europe is doing. They’ve gone into lockdown which will get the epidemic under control nice and quickly, but as soon as they lift the restrictions it will re-emerge.

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Brian May originally posted that on Instagram and deleted it when all the replies were telling him how wrong he is.

I assumed he’d seen sense. Sadly he’s re-posted it in a place where there’s no replies.

I even replied on the Gram with the badger analogy.

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lsr wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:14 pm
It’s a little bit of a gamble though, and it’s very difficult to sell politically.

But it’s better than what the rest of Europe is doing. They’ve gone into lockdown which will get the epidemic under control nice and quickly, but as soon as they lift the restrictions it will re-emerge.
It may be a difficult sell politically, but that suggests it's the right thing to do - how many governments would simply panic and think only of the next election? Whether you agree with their policies or not generally, I do think they're being sensible here following the advice of people who know what they're talking about rather than pander to a populace who think toilet rolls will save them.

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lsr wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:14 pm
But it’s better than what the rest of Europe is doing. They’ve gone into lockdown which will get the epidemic under control nice and quickly, but as soon as they lift the restrictions it will re-emerge.
If everyone that has it either dies or recovers and doesn't transfer it to anyone else in the meantime, due to the lockdown, how does it re-emerge? Nobody's transferring it.

Herd immunity sacrifices some people that don't need to be sacrificed.

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WeeMann wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:45 pm
lsr wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:14 pm
It’s a little bit of a gamble though, and it’s very difficult to sell politically.

But it’s better than what the rest of Europe is doing. They’ve gone into lockdown which will get the epidemic under control nice and quickly, but as soon as they lift the restrictions it will re-emerge.
It may be a difficult sell politically, but that suggests it's the right thing to do - how many governments would simply panic and think only of the next election? Whether you agree with their policies or not generally, I do think they're being sensible here following the advice of people who know what they're talking about rather than pander to a populace who think toilet rolls will save them.
I’ve been pretty clear right from the start that I agree with their stance. I said so before it became cool to do so (see page 17).

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Generic username wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:40 pm
lsr wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:14 pm
But it’s better than what the rest of Europe is doing. They’ve gone into lockdown which will get the epidemic under control nice and quickly, but as soon as they lift the restrictions it will re-emerge.
If everyone that has it either dies or recovers and doesn't transfer it to anyone else in the meantime, due to the lockdown, how does it re-emerge? Nobody's transferring it.

Herd immunity sacrifices some people that don't need to be sacrificed.
All it takes is one person to transmit it and the epidemic starts again.

Total lockdown MIGHT work in authoritarian states like China. It won’t work in democracies.

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