Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Tarkus » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:45 pm

The Russian minister of defence has dismissed the claim as 'nonsense' according to Sky. Keeping everything crossed for a peaceful resolution... :(
 
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Cool Cat » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:25 pm

Tarkus wrote:The Russian minister of defence has dismissed the claim as 'nonsense' according to Sky. Keeping everything crossed for a peaceful resolution... :(

I hope thats true, but they lied about about not sending forces to Crimea :|
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Lino » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:18 pm

they admit they want peace, and the iraqi information minister admitted american troops in Baghdad... blabla.... a friend of mine who is now in Karkhiv says that a russian minister said they didn't wanna do war with Ukraine... yeah.
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Cool Cat » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:54 am

Just watching the press conference with Putin, he says "Russian forces have not taken part in operations in Crimea" :shock: so he wants us to believe that all these helicopter gun ships flying around, the hundreds of personel carriers, the thousands of heavily armed, well instructed forces are all local militia? :lol: errr trying pulling the other other one Putin, :lol: he's just trying to distance Russia from any agression that takes place, very crafty of him, but he fools no one.
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Tarkus » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:22 pm

Remember Victoria Newland and her 'Fuck the EU' comment? Some more interesting stuff...



So were the revolutionaries in Kiev financed by Washington?
 
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Postby Lino » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:51 pm

and Putin talking about democracy is just like Ratzinger praising anal sex.
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Tarkus » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:44 pm

No extremists in the Ukraine revolution?

 
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Postby Innuendoes » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:13 am

Tarkus wrote:Remember Victoria Newland and her 'Fuck the EU' comment? Some more interesting stuff...

So were the revolutionaries in Kiev financed by Washington?


Dusty, what are you saying? The US is responsible for all of this? :shock:
 
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Postby Cool Cat » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:02 pm

Tarkus wrote:No extremists in the Ukraine revolution?


Its obvious there were gonna be extremists, they turn up everywhere, but still no Russian military in Crimea :lol:
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Tarkus » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:26 pm

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Tarkus wrote:Remember Victoria Newland and her 'Fuck the EU' comment? Some more interesting stuff...

So were the revolutionaries in Kiev financed by Washington?


Dusty, what are you saying? The US is responsible for all of this? :shock:


This was the claim by Putin's government, the pro-Russia side of the Ukrainian population, and what was said on Russia Today. This film may be what they based their opinions on, or perhaps there could be a grain of truth in the claim. It's certainly popular among conspiracy theorists to say that Washington funded and helped start off the Arab Spring, and getting Ukraine fast-tracked away from Russia into the EU and from there into NATO would certainly help them from a strategic viewpoint with regards to using Ukraine as a buffer zone against Russia- some of the Washington hawks are still fighting the cold war, don't forget. What's put the spanner in the works is Putin moving in to Crimea under the guise of protecting ethnic Russians and the naval base there.

I find it interesting that Cameron is perfectly OK with allowing Scotland a referendum on staying in the UK- allowing the possibility of our own country to be split up- but refuses to accept a similar referendum for the ethnic Russians in Crimea to leave Ukraine for Russia, because he, like Obama, doesn't want to see Ukraine split up. Double standards, possibly? Hmmm...
 
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Postby Innuendoes » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:50 am

Seems to me I had read some news headlines a few days ago where someone mentioned this and was asking questions. It was a headline next to quite a few others about all manner of things and I was looking for something else. I wish I had clicked on the one mentioning this instead of the one I went there to find.

And, yes, double standards is right!
 
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Cool Cat » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:15 pm

Putin makes me laugh, he says his forces will protect Russian people in UA, but every news footage i've seen this week as been Russian thugs beating up Ukrainians, it seems its them that needs protection.
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Cool Cat » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:52 pm

So tomorrow the illegal referendum in Crimea goes ahead, the outcome is a foregone conclusion, where next? Kharkiv? Donetsk? Luhansk? i fear more troubles to come. :(
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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Cool Cat » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:38 pm

Not all Russians are in favour of Putin's actions, at the biggest anti Putin rally for 2 years in Moscow, where Ukrainian & Russian flags few together, an estimated 80,000 turned out to protest.

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Re: Pray for Ukraine! And the people's freedom!

Postby Tarkus » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:01 am

More evidence of right-wing extremists in Ukraine...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... chief.html
 
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