John would've quit Queen anyway according to Roger

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John would've quit Queen anyway according to Roger

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I don't know whether anyone has read an interview by Roger the other day. He first said that he still believes Queen would still be making music today with Freddie if he still was alive. But this extract is very interesting:
Roger added it was unlikely that bassist John Deacon, who retired from music in 1997, would have stayed in the band. "I don’t know if John Deacon would allow… of course John wasn’t quite mentally suited for it, the other three were,” he said.
I always assumed John left because he couldn't get over losing Freddie but perhaps he had enough for years prior (lyrics of I Want To Break Free and lack of songwriting after A Kind Of Magic, did he only really write two songs in that period? Rain Must Fall and My Life Has Been Saved).

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Roger Taylor definitely will know what he is talking about. There is a german tv-documentary, where Mack confirms that Deacon already had a lot of "problems", when Mack was working with them. And many of you will know this concert-scene, where Deacon throws his bass away on stage. Probably Deacon only stayed in the band after the final tour knowing that the end is near anyway.
But I would not blame him at all. Everyone who has ever been in a band, even a local cover band, will know, that it is completely different to what it looks like from the outside. In countless ways.
Even George Harrison said in 1970 "For every 100 pounds we've earned, we got a 100 pounds worth of problems to balance it".
Not everyone is made for this. I hope, that John Deacon is more happy where he is now.

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Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac left the band in 1998 and didn't return to them again until 2013. In that time she released her own solo album recorded in her garage with her nephew but she never played her own grand piano in her house or even travel anywhere as she developed a fear of flying and she had her car but never drove anywhere. She became deeply disconnected from the world and rarely socialised, she realised she was in deep deep trouble doing that so she got help. Along as if John is happy with whatever he does that's what matters most.

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I'm just going to say, I hope he is healthy and happy.

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Old Man wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:59 am Roger Taylor definitely will know what he is talking about. There is a german tv-documentary, where Mack confirms that Deacon already had a lot of "problems", when Mack was working with them. And many of you will know this concert-scene, where Deacon throws his bass away on stage. Probably Deacon only stayed in the band after the final tour knowing that the end is near anyway.
But I would not blame him at all. Everyone who has ever been in a band, even a local cover band, will know, that it is completely different to what it looks like from the outside. In countless ways.
Even George Harrison said in 1970 "For every 100 pounds we've earned, we got a 100 pounds worth of problems to balance it".
Not everyone is made for this. I hope, that John Deacon is more happy where he is now.
I‘ve watched that new interview with Reinhold Mack in the documentary 2 months ago as well. It was quite a shocking revelation. I mean, it has been rather clear to me, that John hadn’t been too happy with his job/life situation for some time (smashing his bass guitar, not coming to band meetings...) . But hearing it like that was surprising.
I too think, that John would have quit the band some time after 1986 and only stayed longer, when Freddie got ill. The limelight had never been his thing and made him sick. So I hope, he‘s well and happy now.
That’s my take on it.

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I wouldn't be surprised if that was really the case. John never seemed like he wanted all that fame and attention, there is a reason he has vanished from the public for over 20 years now. Guess there was always some reason to keep it going, and near the end probably Freddie as some of you suggested already.

He'll always be the most mysterious of the Queen members. I hope he's happy and enjoying his life out of the spotlight.

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Imagine John just coming out of the woodwork and giving an interview?

I wonder how many songs he’s written since he retired. I wonder if he talks to anyone celebrities anymore.

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That would be the biggest surprise in music ever - John Deacon releasing a solo album he's worked on the last 20 years, just imagine! :lol:

As much as I'd like to hear at least something new from him, and be it just some short interview, that will probably never happen again.

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I don’t believe John would have gone into the music business had it not been for meeting Queen. I think he probably felt comfortable enough with them to pursue a musical career seriously because they were welcoming in a way that no other band could have been. The relationship between the four of them seems be what John cherished most. In almost every interview I’ve seen with John he makes a point of saying that Queen has always consisted of the same four members.

Ever since I realised Queen were continuing without John I’ve admired him for his courage in staying away. At first I believed it was because he didn’t want to continue without Freddie, which is understandable, but now I’ve come to know more about him these last few years he’s impressed me even more as it takes some bravery to admit your feelings and to walk away from something as big as Queen. I’m sure there are a lot of musicians out there who are deeply unhappy but can’t bring themselves give up something they’ve created.

If John had written a solo album it might well have been the best but I guess we’ll never know. Unlike some former members of groups (I hate to say former as John will always be part of Queen), I feel confident in his decision to remain anonymous. I don’t think he’ll be seen in public again with the band and that’s why I respect him.

Although both Roger and John are Leos it may seem strange that John appears to have a different temperament but not all Leos are outgoing. Emily Bronte was a Leo and seems to have been quietly resolute, brave, and retiring. She knew who she was and despite being a member of a group was the quietest yet the most essential – pretty much like John. (I never thought I’d be comparing Queen to the Brontes!)

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Probably it was easier for him to quit when he was less involved than the other musicians in the group, and by nature the bass is more discreet, so if he had left the group, Queen would probably have hired another bass player, I think.

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